Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36077842)

I think it's a diversion that could be addressed in another thread.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077788)

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36077843)

No, it’s not really about British culture, as the obsession with Muslim birth rates demonstrates.

Where we are today *is* British culture. Our culture is generated by, and expressed in, the sum total of everything we all believe and value and how we act on that belief. Likewise, where they were in 1945 *was* British culture. That was different, because societal attitudes were different, for a whole host of reasons including the recent war but also the country’s demographics. Where we are in 2100 *will be* British culture, because the sum total of beliefs and values of all British people at that time, and all the actions actions based on them, is what will generate and express that culture.

Culture is never static, and can never be so. It is always changing, as its component influences are always changing. That is why attempting to talk of a culture being “submerged” by the birth rate of one particular ethnic or religious group, both entirely misunderstands what culture is and how it is generated, and is also just a teeny bit racist.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077855)

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077855)

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36077856)

Dave and Stormzy told us last year at the Brits that everyone is racist

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36077857)

Well, continually posting things along the "Replacement Theory" lines, people will assume the "Duck Theory" applies...

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077859)

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36077865)

You still haven't addressed my suggestion that Islam is a culture at odds with British culture.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36077866)

Disagreement isn’t bullying - you appear to be trying to play the "victim card".

You stated earlier

You don’t seem to have considered the option that people might not agree with your proposal?

You don’t seem to understand that Islam isn’t a culture, but is a religion that has many cultures, and branches (Sunni, Shi'a, Ibadi, Ahmadiyya, and Sufism) within it.

Indonesian Muslims are culturally different from Middle Eastern Muslims, who are different from African Muslims, who are different from American Muslims.

Saying "Islam is one culture" makes as much sense as saying "Christians all think the same way".

Also, thinking that Sunnis, Shias, and Sufis would all think the same way and work as a monolithic entity when voting is easily disproven when you see the internecine strife in the Middle East.

So, demographics have shown your fear of being ‘submerged’ isn’t based on actuality, and I have explained why trying to lump Islam as a single culture isn’t based on observable evidence.

Hope this helps...