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Mick 31-07-2017 09:39
Venezuela Crisis & Sham Election
 
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Britain and the US have called Venezuela's landmark vote a "sham" as 10 people - including two teenagers - were killed during violent protests.

Many in the South American country say it is heading for dictatorship and boycotted Sunday's vote for an assembly that would give President Nicolas Maduro virtually unlimited powers.

Opponents reacted with anger and mockery after the National Electoral Council said more than eight million people had voted.

With many polling stations deserted, rivals estimated the actual number was about two to three million.

President Maduro, however, hailed the result as the "biggest ever vote for the revolution".
http://news.sky.com/story/deadly-pro...-sham-10968400

With a government that is on the take, a Country that is on the brink of becoming a failed State, with a Dictatorship President, there is no way Venezuela with its vast rich oil reserves, should be in the state it is in.

adzii_nufc 31-07-2017 10:28
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The Erdogan of Venezuela then. The US and British Governments will call Venezuela out but Turkey serves someones agenda. Shouldn't be long before the CIA try to topple the Venezuelan government again then, or accidentally ship hundreds of pounds of cocaine to the US by accident.

Taf 31-07-2017 14:19
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South America has been drifting towards total collapse ever since the days of the Juntas. Brazil is on a knife edge too.

Damien 31-07-2017 14:47
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35909969)
The Erdogan of Venezuela then. The US and British Governments will call Venezuela out but Turkey serves someones agenda. Shouldn't be long before the CIA try to topple the Venezuelan government again then, or accidentally ship hundreds of pounds of cocaine to the US by accident.
Turkey is a strategically important country for Europe and America. It's on the border with Syria, it's part of NATO with it's role being at the forefront of the border with the middle east hosting airbases and a large army and is a country we would prefer did not ally with Russia.

Venezuela is none of these things. Although given the state of their country and the oppressive nature of their government it wouldn't be too bad a thing for them to be overthrown.

heero_yuy 31-07-2017 15:00
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A portentous vision of Britain if comrade Corbyn got elected.

Osem 31-07-2017 17:14
Re: Venezuela Crisis & Sham Election
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35910029)
A portentous vision of Britain if comrade Corbyn got elected.
Correct but that's something the rose tinted brigade care to dwell upon. They'll be telling us it never happened soon no doubt... :rolleyes:

Mick 31-07-2017 21:09
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US has hit Venezuelan President Madura, with Financial Sanctions, freezing all known US assets immediately.

Damien 31-07-2017 21:12
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910136)
US has hit Venezuelan President Madura, with Financial Sanctions, freezing all known US assets immediately.
Good

Mick 31-07-2017 21:24
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35910139)
Good
The US has gone further, no US citizen is permitted to do any business with President Maduro. They are making it abundantly clear, they do not recognise this illegal move to alter Venezuela's constitution.

Damien 31-07-2017 21:32
Re: Venezuela Crisis & Sham Election
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35910141)
The US has gone further, no US citizen is permitted to do any business with President Maduro. They are making it abundantly clear, they do not recognise this illegal move to alter Venezuela's constitution.
Even better. :D

Osem 31-07-2017 21:50
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Has anyone spoken to Red Ken? :rofl:

So is this a Trump triumph or not? Lots of folk are quick to condemn after all so how about some credit 'if' it's due?...

Damien 31-07-2017 22:12
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35910145)
Has anyone spoken to Red Ken? :rofl:

So is this a Trump triumph or not? Lots of folk are quick to condemn after all so how about some credit 'if' it's due?...
Well not a triumph as it's not changed much and is in keeping with existing US policy of increasing sanctions against Venezuela, it wasn't a triumph for Obama either, but yes he does deserve credit for his government taking the correct action here.

Osem 31-07-2017 22:23
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35910153)
Well not a triumph as it's not changed much and is in keeping with existing US policy of increasing sanctions against Venezuela, it wasn't a triumph for Obama either, but yes he does deserve credit for his government taking the correct action here.
Given all the negative hysteria about Trump I'd have thought people would welcome anything which isn't a total disaster. It'd be churlish not to surely. Obamacare is exiting US policy and he clearly didn't rubber stamp that. ;)

Mick 02-08-2017 13:34
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http://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-cor...zuela-10970635

Corbyn urged to condemn Maduro, by his own Labour MPs.

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Labour MP Angela Smith, who has reportedly joined a new all-party parliamentary group on Venezuela, said: "I think Corbyn needs to condemn the actions of the Venezuelan regime, which are a very serious threat to democracy in that country."

Graham Jones, another Labour MP and chairman of the group, told The Times: "I believe everybody in the Labour Party should condemn the Venezuelan regime because the first duty of any state is to look after its citizens.

"Venezuela has failed."

In the past, Mr Corbyn has expressed support for Venezuela's socialist state, praising Mr Maduro's predecessor Hugo Chavez.

As a backbencher, he attended a 2013 vigil following the death of Mr Chavez, calling him an "inspiration to all of us fighting back against austerity and neo-liberal economics in Europe".

Mr Corbyn later supported a parliamentary motion congratulating Mr Maduro on his election victory via "transparent and fair" elections, and called for closer ties between Caracas and London.

It also urged then-prime minister David Cameron to invite Mr Maduro to visit the UK at the earliest opportunity.
Corbyn was preaching earlier in the year regarding a State visit for President Trump saying it needed to called off for a whole raft of issues, yet here we have had him praising Maduro in the past, even wanting to welcom him here. Always seems to be backing the wrong people for all the wrong reasons. Yet, he shuns the leader of our most closest ally. :rolleyes:

Either way, I hope you're watching the bloody mess going on over there that you want to inflict on us here, Corbyn. Your dreams of a one class State does not work.

Osem 02-08-2017 17:56
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People like Corbyn live in a dream world and continue to propagate their political nonsense in spite of the facts and yes they'd rather insult a great ally than castigate one of their own no matter how bad. Excuses, excuses and more excuses is what we get from Labour when they're not dodging these issues entirely. They'd happily rewrite history to suit their own agenda.


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