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RichardCoulter 24-12-2017 10:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35929924)
It would be difficult for any broadcaster to make a rolling news service attractive in Ireland. I suppose they could take more filler items from international news rather than items such as the fire service rescuing a cat stuck in a tree in Cork. Then again, RTE could have done that too.

Wasn't helped by the fact that they were forbidden from advertising on the channel.

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35929928)
Someone is using out-of-date info. It used to be on 188.

Thanks, looks like the BBC are unaware and are still showing 188 on their closedown slate.

Dave42 24-12-2017 13:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
:xmas: hope everyone has a great one

ozsat 25-12-2017 06:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
The slate always said temporary and it is back on VM only. No sign on Sky.

Perhaps they still have a contract with VM to fulfil.
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35929445)
Apparently just a short vacation rather than a goodbye. It now appears to be back on the EPG.

In more technical terms, streams associated with the original Playboy service, SID 1709 have been removed and the service has been parked on SID 1759. The new Playboy service SID 1710, previously testing on 5 internal networks, has now been added across the national network and has replaced the original service on the EPG.


jj20x 26-12-2017 02:05

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35929993)
The slate always said temporary

As far as I remember, and Richard's original post should confirm this, the "This channel is temporarily unavailable" was only on the PPN service "advert" on EPG slot 971. The actual subscription channel on EPG slot 979 carried the "Channel No Longer Available" description on the EPG and the "service replacement" slate would have been displayed 24/7 to any subscribers able to view it.

That, sort of, made sense as the NVOD channel linked to the advert on slot 971 is a VM internal service with no (visible) direct link to the EPG. So VM could have replaced the PPN service with any other PPN service, explaining the "temporarily unavailable message".

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and it is back on VM only. No sign on Sky.

Perhaps they still have a contract with VM to fulfil.
Perhaps, although I thought I covered that scenario in post #3795.

ozsat 26-12-2017 09:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
On the regular channel (979) the listings said "Channel No Longer Available" but the slate said "temporarily unvailable". I think it remained behind the subscription wall too.
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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35930028)
As far as I remember, and Richard's original post should confirm this, the "This channel is temporarily unavailable" was only on the PPN service "advert" on EPG slot 971. The actual subscription channel on EPG slot 979 carried the "Channel No Longer Available" description on the EPG and the "service replacement" slate would have been displayed 24/7 to any subscribers able to view it.


jj20x 26-12-2017 12:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35930031)
On the regular channel (979) the listings said "Channel No Longer Available" but the slate said "temporarily unvailable".

Did it really?

The scan data shows that, as I have stated previously, several times, the service replacement slate was displayed 24/7. The service replacement slate is done through SDT linkage, which indicates that the replacement service was SID 2101, "Channel Off Air Slate". The "Channel Off Air Slate" is the (static) video stream displayed when any channel is off-air. It doesn't state "temporarily unavailable", it states "We'll be Back. This channel is not on air right now. Check the GUIDE to find out what's on when." So, basically the slate refers the viewer to the guide which, as you have pointed out stated "Channel No Longer Available".

That's not a temporarily unavailable message, it's a loop of confusion. The standard off-air slate used on a service (SID 1709) which was, indeed, no longer available.

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I think it remained behind the subscription wall too.
Well, the SDT flags for subscription and PIN access for adult channels remained in place.

I'm not sure why you even brought this up when it is clear from the thread that the "new" Playboy service (SID 1710) had been testing from around Dec 12th and, in any event had totally replaced the original service (SID 1709) by Dec 19th. I think this subject has been exhausted.

Paul 26-12-2017 22:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Closed.

2018 thread here ;

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33705858

(A little early I think, MB)


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