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Hugh 23-06-2021 18:08

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
If no "border" is imposed (with no checks by U.K. on goods coming in from the EU (Ireland)), WTO Most Favored Nation rule means that the U.K. cannot have checks on goods coming from any country.

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Trade without discrimination

1. Most-favoured-nation (MFN): treating other people equally Under the WTO agreements, countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners. Grant someone a special favour (such as a lower customs duty rate for one of their products) and you have to do the same for all other WTO members.

This principle is known as most-favoured-nation (MFN) treatment (see box). It is so important that it is the first article of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), which governs trade in goods.

mrmistoffelees 23-06-2021 18:22

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
EU have informally approved the extension request

https://apple.news/ArGLOBJoYQZunioQQZ22qcQ

Such nastiness

1andrew1 23-06-2021 19:10

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36084162)
If no "border" is imposed (with no checks by U.K. on goods coming in from the EU (Ireland)), WTO Most Favored Nation rule means that the U.K. cannot have checks on goods coming from any country.

:gpoint:

Sephiroth 23-06-2021 19:13

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.

papa smurf 23-06-2021 20:21

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?

1andrew1 23-06-2021 20:30

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36084170)
Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?

In the knacker's yard?

Pierre 23-06-2021 20:35

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36084170)
Where does this leave minced beef smugglers ?

In the same boat as the Budgie smugglers.

1andrew1 23-06-2021 20:40

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36084168)
all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.

You've missed a few. Add peace in Ireland. Add peace in GB. Add the integrity of the GB single market. Add the integrity of the European single market.

Sephiroth 23-06-2021 20:42

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.

papa smurf 23-06-2021 20:48

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36084178)
Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.

I'll drink to that:tu:

Mad Max 23-06-2021 20:50

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36084178)
Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.

Well said.

Hugh 23-06-2021 20:52

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36084168)
all that matters is goods from Britain to NI. Unfettered access without complicated stuff.

Should the UK just ignore the WTO?
Quote:

Trade without discrimination

1. Most-favoured-nation (MFN): treating other people equally Under the WTO agreements, countries cannot normally discriminate between their trading partners. Grant someone a special favour (such as a lower customs duty rate for one of their products) and you have to do the same for all other WTO members.

This principle is known as most-favoured-nation (MFN) treatment (see box). It is so important that it is the first article of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), which governs trade in goods.

Sephiroth 23-06-2021 20:55

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36084181)
Should the UK just ignore the WTO?

… and sod that too. The territorial integrity of the UK and its internal market has nothing to do with the WTO.

As if you didn’t know.

Hugh 23-06-2021 21:11

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
It does when there is a contiguous border with another country - ignoring it won’t make it go away.

If we want trade agreements with other countries, telling the WTO to "sod off" is a sub-optimal approach.

1andrew1 23-06-2021 21:27

Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36084178)
Sod the integrity of the EU Single Market.

No such market to sod. ;)

---------- Post added at 21:27 ---------- Previous post was at 21:25 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36084184)
It does when there is a contiguous border with another country - ignoring it won’t make it go away.

If we want trade agreements with other countries, telling the WTO to "sod off" is a sub-optimal approach.

Yup, we're in the realms of fantasy politics if such approaches were ever taken!


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