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cheekyangus 10-11-2021 16:23

New BBC Red Button Bridge Interface
 
Just discovered a new BBC Red Button Bridge interface has launched on my V6 box.

Press Red and you get an area on the right hand side of the screen, the top is DVD-box shape for a featured boxset with a mini carousel-esque effect that spins to two more featured boxsets if you press right.

Below this are the following options one above the other:
Restart, iPlayer, Sounds

I've not tried it, but I assume the first of these is Live Restart of the current show.

It's very swish. :)

ScottishSteve 10-11-2021 16:36

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Looks neat
It’s on the 360 box as well

cheekyangus 10-11-2021 20:09

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Tried "Restart" during Reporting Scotland on BBC1 Scotland and it played This Is BBC Scotland from the BBC Scotland channel instead.

The Featured area is flexible in the number of Featured items. I tried just now and it had a 4th Tile for a Live event in position 1 (Wheelchair rugby if you were wondering).

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The Live Restart isn't working correctly, here at least. I just tried it again during The One Show and it did so for the show currently on BBC Scotland channel rather than BBC1 Scotland again.

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Oddly I just got this when I tried to resume a show in BBC Sounds.

BBC Connected Bridge - BBC One Scot HD is currently unavailable. (A01) Please reboot and try again in a few minutes.

Blah..blah.. Error Code (A01).


What this has to do with the new bridge, as I was already in the app as this point, isn't obvious.

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It didn't say Blah Blah, I just couldn't be bothered typing the lengthy padding in the middle of the message. :D

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I tried again without rebooting, tried a live stream in BBC Sounds instead and...it stalled the box. :shocked: :(

I got the impression it was having an internet connection problem both times, but the box had a working connection up to that point and my net is working elsewhere.

Looks like something about accessing via the bridge is messing something up. I may try later, but not now as I have multiple things recording. I've already missed the start of one recording (edit: make that 3!) as I had to switch it off at the wall.

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I risked going to the BBC Sounds app directly from the Apps & Games menu, thereby bypassing the new bridge, upon the box booting up and tried the same live stream and it's been working fine.

I just now tried to access it again via the new bridge...and it still doesn't work. It acted like it was, then played no sound. Eventually it went straight back to the live TV channel that was on behind the app.

Something about the new bridge layer needs fixed. Going directly in via Apps & Games again it didn't work and crashed the box, and it rebooted itself this time.

I didn't have an issue with iPlayer playing content earlier via the new bridge, so it's just BBC Sounds it has problems with.

cheekyangus 16-11-2021 10:31

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
I'd been trying every day until Saturday to see if the BBC Sounds stall/crash bug had been fixed. I didn't try Sunday since there aren't likely to be "new builds" then.

Didn't work yesterday morning, but checked just now and my V6 has a Monday afternoon build of the App and *drumroll* IT WORKS!

I've literally just found this working, so hopefully there aren't any further bugs.

I am under the impression the previous problems were a memory leak triggered if you launched BBC Sounds via the New Red Button Bridge. Because if you launched the app via the Apps & Games menu, the App worked apparently fine. Though it didn't if you launched it that way after having tried via the New Bridge.

It just occurred to me I should check if the Restart function is working, it was doing BBC Scotland channel rather than BBC1 Scotland. I'll be back momentarily...

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Well that's disappointing.

So, current New BBC Red Button Bridge status for me.
- BBC Sounds TV app now launches and works from New Bridge
- Restart still Live Restarts BBC Scotland channel rather than BBC1 Scotland

Note: The above is on V6 box and in Scotland. The New Bridge Interface may perform the Restart function correctly in other regions of the UK and/or on a TV360 box.

epsilon 17-11-2021 00:46

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36101425)
- Restart still Live Restarts BBC Scotland channel rather than BBC1 Scotland

Note: The above is on V6 box and in Scotland. The New Bridge Interface may perform the Restart function correctly in other regions of the UK and/or on a TV360 box.

I wonder if the fault is in Virgin's code or in the BBC's.

cheekyangus 17-11-2021 09:47

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101550)
I wonder if the fault is in Virgin's code or in the BBC's.

I've yet hear whether the New Bridge has been launched on any other TV platforms that have BBC's Connected Red Button, and aside from knowing it's on TV360 I can only say the problems have been mine, on a V6.

There could be problems outside VM's platform. And outside their own hardware, I've never been under the impression that VM (or subsidiaries) code anything App-wise, any Apps are coded by the Broadcasters or companies the Broadcasters work outsource to.

epsilon 17-11-2021 18:01

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
What I mean is that the app will interface with the BBC's iPlayer platform and that the incorrect selection of BBC Scotland could possibly be a script in the iPlayer code. It wouldn't be the first time the BBC had messed up interactive code. Have you tried the restart function for BBC 1 Scotland on a different platform?

1701-e 17-11-2021 18:09

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
It works okay here in Belfast on a V6. BBC 1 restarted current programme.

cheekyangus 17-11-2021 18:52

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101680)
What I mean is that the app will interface with the BBC's iPlayer platform and that the incorrect selection of BBC Scotland could possibly be a script in the iPlayer code. It wouldn't be the first time the BBC had messed up interactive code. Have you tried the restart function for BBC 1 Scotland on a different platform?

I've only got access to one platform that has it so I can't.
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36101681)
It works okay here in Belfast on a V6. BBC 1 restarted current programme.

Glad to hear it. :)

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It occurred to me I've not tried Restart on other BBC channels, it may well be it is only BBC1 Scotland/BBC Scotland that the problem occurs.

Surprised I only just realised. :erm::dunce:

epsilon 17-11-2021 19:08

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36101687)
I've only got access to one platform that has it so I can't.


Glad to hear it. :)

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It occurred to me I've not tried Restart on other BBC channels, it may well be it is only BBC1 Scotland/BBC Scotland that the problem occurs.

Surprised I only just realised. :erm::dunce:

I tried restart on multiple devices / platforms during Look North and got BBC One London. So yeah, that was fun. Not exactly what I was expecting but it's not a feature I usually use.


In theory, the region should be linked to that set in your BBC account settings.... but is it?

cheekyangus 17-11-2021 19:16

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101693)
I tried restart on multiple devices / platforms during Look North and got BBC One London. So yeah, that was fun. Not exactly what I was expecting but it's not a feature I usually use.


In theory, the region should be linked to that set in your BBC account settings.... but is it?

I managed to get an error message that mentioned Scotland one time (it's in an earlier lost). It had names that correlated with VM channel name formatting, so I'd have thought it doesn't look at iPlayer account settings, just broadcast channels. My VM regions are allocated by my postcode with VM I'd have thought.

There are several logged in on this device, so I'm not 100% what they are set to specifically.

epsilon 17-11-2021 19:22

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36101696)
I managed to get an error message that mentioned Scotland one time (it's in an earlier lost). It had names that correlated with VM channel name formatting, so I'd have thought it doesn't look at iPlayer account settings, just broadcast channels. My VM regions are allocated by my postcode with VM I'd have thought.

There are several logged in on this device, so I'm not 100% what they are set to specifically.

Look in the iPlayer settings.

cheekyangus 17-11-2021 19:57

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101698)
Look in the iPlayer settings.

I meant I hadn't commited how the various accounts were set up to memory.

epsilon 17-11-2021 21:21

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36101705)
I meant I hadn't commited how the various accounts were set up to memory.

I noticed that iPlayer on Freeview Play was seriously messed up when I checked. The BBC One live stream kept switching out to a delayed version from earlier in the day, my region had been reset to London and it wasn't using the beta version. I switched it back to beta and the correct region but BBC One live was still glitching. I removed the account and set it up again, which seems to have fixed it. Hopefully. I've not noticed these bugs before but it's handy to know that removing the account and setting it up again had some effect.

cheekyangus 17-11-2021 23:45

Re: New BBC Red Button Bridge Inferface
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36101718)
I noticed that iPlayer on Freeview Play was seriously messed up when I checked. The BBC One live stream kept switching out to a delayed version from earlier in the day, my region had been reset to London and it wasn't using the beta version. I switched it back to beta and the correct region but BBC One live was still glitching. I removed the account and set it up again, which seems to have fixed it. Hopefully. I've not noticed these bugs before but it's handy to know that removing the account and setting it up again had some effect.

Interesting. Appreciate the testing and report. Thank you.


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