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LooieENG 11-12-2007 21:13

Finally got Sky!
 
And went from a solid 4mbps to 3.2, 384kbps to ~290 and pings of 12ms (bbc.co.uk) to 77ms :shocked:

:td: Sky

Edit: Btw, this is the "up to 8mbit/448kbit upload"

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Edit: It just went off, and said "ADSL Link Down"

I reconnected, did a speedtest and I'm getting 5.3mbps

Tightscot 11-12-2007 21:15

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
if its max and it's only just been activated, you'll have to wait anywhere upto 10 or so days while it trains and then gets locked to the best possible speed.

LooieENG 11-12-2007 21:24

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
Okay, I'll leave it a bit then. Thanks.

Also, is it normal for my router to keep asking me to log in every so often?

Chrysalis 11-12-2007 22:05

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
sky connect (the one you on) is much poorer than skys normal LLU service.

LooieENG 11-12-2007 22:56

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
I'm on the "Mid" service

Tezcatlipoca 11-12-2007 23:06

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
What are the stats? Downstream attenuation & noise margin?

How do you connect the router? Extension or master socket?


etc. etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tightscot (Post 34450385)
if its max and it's only just been activated, you'll have to wait anywhere upto 10 or so days while it trains and then gets locked to the best possible speed.


Nope, not with Sky BB Max, Mid, or Base. Sky's LLU services have no "training period".


Unless by "max" you mean "ADSLMax", such as Sky's non-LLU "Sky BB Connect" service, which is just a resold BT BB ADSLMax service.

LooieENG 11-12-2007 23:50

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
Sky "Mid" package

Connection Speed 3808 kbps 384 kbps
Line Attenuation 26.0 db 13.5 db
Noise Margin 11.5 db 14.0 db

LSainsbury 12-12-2007 10:30

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34450485)
What are the stats? Downstream attenuation & noise margin?



How would I find those out, please Matt?

pedantic 12-12-2007 10:57

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34450609)
How would I find those out, please Matt?

Try here.

Chrysalis 12-12-2007 23:18

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LooieENG (Post 34450477)
I'm on the "Mid" service

you on ipstream - non LLU

evident due to the 448 upstream.

SOSAGES 13-12-2007 12:38

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
what are u comparing sky with ?

southwell 13-12-2007 12:40

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
Are you connected to the main BT socket in your house? How far are you from your exchange?

Tightscot 13-12-2007 20:04

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34450485)

Nope, not with Sky BB Max, Mid, or Base. Sky's LLU services have no "training period".


Unless by "max" you mean "ADSLMax", such as Sky's non-LLU "Sky BB Connect" service, which is just a resold BT BB ADSLMax service.

yep i meant max as in adsl max... AFAIK none of the LLU has no training period, regardless of isp.

Tezcatlipoca 13-12-2007 21:53

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LooieENG (Post 34450513)
Sky "Mid" package

Connection Speed 3808 kbps 384 kbps
Line Attenuation 26.0 db 13.5 db
Noise Margin 11.5 db 14.0 db

I wish I had your attenuation!

It's easily low enough for the full 16mbps (depending on noise margin) if you were to be on Sky BB Max, & certainly low enough for the full 8mbps on Sky BB Mid.

However your sync speed is low, & noise margin high. Maybe you've been capped due to a poor line, or maybe the noise margin was very low the last time the router synced (causing a low sync speed), & has since risen.

Have a good read of these...

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/view-common.html

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/view-master.html

http://www.dslzoneuk.net/socket.php

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/route...explained.html

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/route...ter-stats.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 34451026)
you on ipstream - non LLU

evident due to the 448 upstream.

Sky BB Mid has a 448kbps upload AFAIK, & is LLU...

It's only Sky BB Max which has 768kbps upload.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tightscot (Post 34451536)
yep i meant max as in adsl max... AFAIK none of the LLU has no training period, regardless of isp.

Ah, thought that's what you meant :)

LooieENG 13-12-2007 22:38

Re: Finally got Sky!
 
I plugged my router into the test socket and got 7mbps, then I realised all the other sockets needed those splitter things. Now I have

Connection Speed 8096 kbps 384 kbps
Line Attenuation 25.0 db 13.0 db
Noise Margin 14.8 db 14.0 db

and get a download speed of just under 7mbps, and an upload speed of 320kbps. Pings are still bad compared to VM though.

Matt D, could I really get around 16mbps with Max?


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