Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Never mind Phorm stock, I should invest in coffee futures. Alexander Hanff |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
It looks like BT are responding to customer suggestions about how phorm should operate :-
http://www.beta.bt.com/bta/forums/th...rt=0&start=300 Lets hope VM start listening too |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Alexander Hanff |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Reading that page there, seems there's some concern that people have been posting under sockpuppet accounts and that it might have something to do with a PR team? Seems to be an attempt to "obfuscate the debate" as the slashdot posting pointed out... I think such attempts here would be spotted. I certainly hope so... Let me make it clear here that I am no fan of BT. If I have to leave VM it will be with extreme reluctance, but the only practical alternatives to VM involve having a BT line. The idea of paying any money to them is so incredibly offensive to me. But I'm much less of a fan of Phorm and what they stand for, which is even more offensive and must be fought. The RIPA point must be made time and again and in numbers. |
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and dont let LadyMinions linked NY times story /Phorm COO's (Chief Operating Officer ) public statement go un-noticed,
get it out there ASAP and watch the PR machine go in to overdrive. "Quote: “As you browse, we’re able to categorize all of your Internet actions,” said Virasb Vahidi, the chief operating officer of Phorm. “We actually can see the entire Internet.” The company, called Phorm, has created a tool that can track every single online action of a given consumer, based on data from that person’s Internet service provider.” |
Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Over on the BT Beta suport forum, BT Spokesman Mark W has stated;
"I understand you might not be particularly trusting of myself and BT at the moment but this isn't a contradiction. What was being talked about in the quote there is that data would be mirrored but not profiled, what we're talking about now is that if opted out data would not even be mirrored. What we're aiming to have in the update next week is a set of diagrams and a walk through explaining how the system will work when it's live, I hope that this will make things a lot clearer for people." So BT seem to be constantly modifying their position on how their opt-out will work, presumably as a result of pressure from their customers. Their current position appears to be that if a customer opts-out of the Phorm system, then that customer's web traffic will not be mirrored or profiled. This arrangement is the only one which could persuade me to stay with Virgin Media if they introduce Phorm's system to their network. So what have you got to say, VM? |
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If my data does then it is goodbye Virgin Media hello SKY, BT, Be Unlimited. |
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Is there a simple web page anywhere that explains the key issues and what people should do about it?
I ask because, although I work in IT, this completely passed me by until I read the Berners-Lee article on the BBC site on Monday. Some Google work that evening brought me more up to date. None of my collegues, nor anyone else I know has any idea about this. It strikes me that this campaign needs to go a lot wider (remember the e-mail linked, Downing Street petition against road-use charging). If I e-mail people I know about this, it would be useful to be able to refer them to a page that simply explains the issues and what to do. e.g. Sign the petition, query ISP, write to MP, send DP notice to ISP and e-mail their friends about it. Most people I know would be concerned and I believe that only a mass campaign would kill this off for good. |
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Should have most things you need, including links to the petition & various other sites... |
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Lots of great articles there to brief you on various aspects of the Phorm system |
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I'm not shocked that Phorm does that, I'm shocked - in fact totally gobsmacked, that they've let this slip out. Those few words are the most damming to ever come out of Phorms mouth. Copy and past the above quote anywhere and everywhere, the more people know what Virasb Vahidi said, the better. |
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