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yes the future looks bright

the moon base

colony on mars

warp drive

fusion power stations

world hunger up due to planet covered in solar panels

anyway must go i need to shovel some more coal into the stove ;)

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We can't wait that long. The first announcement is for softening up purposes. We will go electric well before then. I'm thinking 2025 but really, the sooner the better. The car industry will be shifting its priorities apace.

It's all good news; ignore Papa Luddite :)

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I do think 2040 is unambitious. To be honest I think it's a fudge that the government knows requires little effort on their part. Sort of like setting a news year resolution to eat more, gonna happen anyway.

I think 2025 is a good target to hit to be honest. Most car manufacturers are looking at electric engines. You could say new cars by 2025(ish) have to be electric but allowing 2nd hand cars. 2040 should be the target for the banning of petrol based cars from the roads entirely. Under the current goal someone could buy a petrol based car on December 31st 2039 and drive it for more than 10 years. (although as I said I think it's unlikely to be easy to find such a car by 2030s).

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Aside from the massive problems of having enough electricity to charge all these cars, what about the batteries ? To use a phrase, lithium does not grow on trees. Its doubtful there is enough to actually make (and keep replacing) all the required batteries.

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they'll just make batteries out of libtardium ;)

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If you go back 23 years than most batteries weren't Lithium based as far as I know. I'd think most in electronic use were based on Nickel (Ni-Cd or Ni-MH).

So I hope we have a similar movement to a different battery technology that is sustainable.

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So we are basing out entire transport system on a hope ? :erm:

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We're basing it on that fact that if we continue with Petrol and Diesel then we're may literally be killing people.

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there's always notmuchofitaboutium - this all sounds like a bad episode of tomorrow's world

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Im actually at the point now of giving serious thought to trading in my rather thirsty (but much fun) V10 for a Tesla model S

Plenty of charging points nr where i work and a charging point in my house (which the previous owner had fitted free by the government)

My petrolhead fix is still met by the bikes

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You could argue that the world is already over populated....

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We're pretty much completely reliant on the internet and related technologies for our society to work. That wasn't the case 23 years ago. And that's happened without any plan.

So I don't see if being a problem to specifically state an aim to move away from a technology in quite a long timeframe.

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... and refill it in 2 mins as opposed to many hours during which your car is useless. That's great in an emergency isn't it but maybe HMG is going to ban emergencies in 2035... :rolleyes:

There's not much pleasure left in driving these days and having to worry about running out of juice only detracts further from what little is left.

I might consider buying a hybrid vehicle at some point but can't foresee a time when I'd want to rely purely on battery power.

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there ok for a shopping car as long as you have a charging point at home but if you come to cleethorpes bring a generator with you we have 2 charging points and they don't work ;)

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No doubt generators will be outlawed too.

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if this is about clean air then what about flying ? aviation fuel is way too cheap and only encourages excessive flying and as a result more pollution .