Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Understood, but there are many terms which are 'by default' malicious, doesn't make them any less accurate even if the immediate perception might be inaccurate.

They aren't malicious but Virgin's DNS resolvers rather than caching and relaying the response they are getting from DNS servers are hijacking that communication between you and these servers and replacing it with their own entries.

It's like saying that a trojan horse isn't a trojan horse if it doesn't do anything more malicious than change your Internet Explorer title bar because the name 'Trojan Horse' suggests maliciousness not mischief.

Again this is nothing personal against Virgin, I hope that the claims that it isn't hijacking aren't anything personal for them :)

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Your average user would most likely find this helpfull and would have a clue about DNS requests to begin with. For those's where this represents the end of the world you have one (1) DNS request 'hijacked'. Is this really such a big deal?

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Agreed, prices are already "decent" and for a company that is battling the likes of BT - I would welcome any "other" profitable revenue VM could find, if it ment VM is to kept safe and have extra cash to put into their network and maybe, bring down the STM idea. :)

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

You must be labouring under the misapprehension that VM provide services with the primary intension of benefiting their subscribers. :)

I think you can be absolutely sure that the beneficiaries of any cost cutting/revenue raising ideas, further or otherwise, activated by VM will not be the Subscribers or even non executive Staff for that matter.

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Quite right

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

I agree with you 100%

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Well clearly you don't fall under that bracket of loyal. Your constantly complaining about the company yet I can't help but see you have the service. Please, leave and goto ADSL. see what service you get then and complain about that

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Keep it on topic can't you.
This thread is about a VM browser hijack.
If you want to make a personal attack on me I suggest you start a new thread it's bad form to hijack someone elses.
Oh! And do try to be more original. The phraseology you are using has been absolutely done to death over the years. :p:

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Right then can someone put me right on this. I've trawled through the techspeak garblese on that VM webpage and read through this thread so three straight question:-


1)Is Virginmedia redirecting data generated by me sitting at my computer to a third party without specifially asking for my consent?

2)Is Nominum a company capable of restricting access to certain websites that it or VM or any other 3rd party (such as the government) consider should be banned.

3)Is Nominum a company capable of logging ip addresses of people attempting to access websites that might be banned in future?

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

No, no.....and no.

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Mockapetris

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

1) Yes - when you attempt to go to an invalid domain what you actually typed is being sent to Nominum's search engine.
2) No - if a site's address is valid it will be dealt with purely by VM's own systems.
3) No - see 2)

The potential is there for it to happen, but not under the current system. VM would have to turn all of their DNS over to Nominum.

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

Thanks.

Re: Virgin Media Hijack customers browser search options
 

The problem with having something like this as opt-in is that the very people it will benefit will NEVER know about it.

It's far easier to have it opt-out as the vast majority of people aren't tech aware enough to know what it is, what it does, or how they could enable it, and if you sent them letters explaining it they'd pass it off as tech gobbledeegook and ignore it.

Instead you stick it as opt-out, with the page explaining very easily how to disable it and what it is, and then the people that don't want it get to see it all of once and can disable it 5 seconds later.

The people that are so against it they'd disable it are far far outweighed by those that would benefit from it, so having it opt-in is by far the best idea as then the people it's actually designed to benefit will get the benefit from it.