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England were bowled out for 58 - their sixth lowest Test total - on the first day of the Test series in New Zealand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43495372

No surprise sadly as with the incompetent buffoons at the helm of English cricket they could not organise a piss up in a brewery.:(

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At some point, we will be creating a new Ashes urn because of the abysmal scores we seem to be producing. Mind you, we had this cycle not so long ago. I mean, Australia won every Ashes series between 1987 and 2005, so it's to be expected that we will have another cycle of mediocrity (if we can even call it that) before we get our next generation of stars through that will put us back at the top again.

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The original Ashes are tiny (just bails or something), with the current performance you'd need something bigger and burn all the bats as well.

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27-9 at one point.:(

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Even you with your band of followers would have done better Jim..;)

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Excuse me ?

For your attention!!

All bat species, their breeding sites and resting places are fully protected by law - they're European protected species. You may be able to get a licence from Natural England if you can't avoid disturbing them or damaging their habitats, or if you want to survey or conserve them .

Like the cricket squad you should be ashamed :dozey:

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England's fifth place in the six nations rugby is starting to look like a success ;)

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Now there's an idea - use an oval ball and allow the bowler to tackle the batsmen :erm:

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It's a cycle. We will go good again, just have to suffer for a while in the meantime.

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At least they haven’t sunk this low.:rolleyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/43526870

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Probably when those ball tampering Aussies come over Mark.

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Another false dawn.:(

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A captain who seems to not know what direction he is going in plus players who need to learn the art of defensive technique again.

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We've just forgotten how to play Test Matches and can't adapt to the conditions. Too much of the One Day and 20/20 crap. Wonder if Geoffrey Boycott is available for selection?

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Bad decision to bat first from Root, then they take ten wickets by pitching on a full length and England still continue to bowl short, back of a length stuff.

Good grief it's not rocket science.:mad:

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Two days played and two days we have been outplayed thus so far..:(:td:

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tbf this young Pakistan team look quite handy and are on the way back up. They are also taking Test cricket seriously, unlike us.

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Heads need to roll springs to mind for our ragbag of misfits..:td::(

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And who would you pick Den ? We're playing the best, though Roots captaincy has been very disappointing. We need someone with a bit of fire, Stokes is a the man if he's found Not Guilty in the court case ( which given the video footage would seem unlikely).

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Seems like losing the toss is the way to go.:rolleyes:

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Amazing how the toss can have such a large effect on matches..

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It’s not the toss in the past two matches but the strange decisions made by both toss winning captains.:confused:

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I think both decisions were right but the batsman have been poor. Always bat if you win the toss, first law of Test Match Cricket.
Credit to Michael Vaughan for putting the wind up our bowlers, suggesting they should be dropped.

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As I suspected, a flawed axiom these days. ;)

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine...ry/691061.html

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Aside from the statistics (my eyes glaze over some of it) isn't it usually a good idea to bat last (4th innings) as the crease / outfield has softened some by day 4 or 5 where as it starts off quite a lot firmer / bouncier?

The boys division used to go down and practice at big stadiums at my old school and the only thing that they said made it difficult was chasing down a big total. (Though those pitches were not kept to professional standards of course).

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Batting in the fourth innings is 'in most instances' the hardest, especially if the opposition have one or two top class spin bowlers.

When the pitch is hard and fast it helps the quicker bowlers but also helps GOOD batsmen score quickly. By the 4th or 5th day the pitch has become worn and the fast bowlers foot marks give the spin bowlers a huge help, especially against left handed batsmen.


The problem yesterday was that at 10:30 the sun was out and at 11:00 when the game started the clouds had rolled in. Everyone knows that when you have warm, muggy conditions and cloud cover at Headingly the ball swings and seams prodigiously.


Batting fourth is only easy when you have a very small total to aim at, quite a lot of the wins from sides batting second involve the side batting first batting badly and getting a very low score, conditions and usually the pitch improve on days 2 and 3, the team batting second then makes a massive score, batting the other side right out of the game so that they succumb by an innings or have no sort of total to bowl at in the fourth.

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Well you can forget about a fourth innings Jim..:D:D

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:cleader::cleader::cleader:

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Lol...if only cheerleaders existed in cricket like 15 years ago...I could have claimed to be into cricket, too and gotten like 4 to 5 days off school, too. (Well it was closer to 3 as they started on Thursdays and played through weekends...)

And yeah, they never made it to a day 5, lol.

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No Test matches till August now, Should have been a 3rd Test with Pakistan to decide things. Instead they've squeezed in a pointless money making one day series with the Aussies. They are killing the game.

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Amazing that the test series with Pakistan was only a 2 test series but alas just like football and many other sports money is the Be-all and end-all Mr K.

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Agreed, a test series should always be at least three games. I am actually going to the ODI v Australia at Old Trafford on the 24th. 😎

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l bet the tickets cost a penny or two Jim.

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Cost me about £89 I think. One of my Christmas presents this year was a years membership at the other Old Trafford so was able to purchase tickets in a good area earlier and at a discount. :)

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And if England get bowled out for 57, it could be a very short expensive day ! ;)

The beauty of Test cricket is that there is time for the game to switch one way then another, both teams have a second innings/chance. Once a one day game goes one way, it gets very boring/predictable - great if it goes to the last ball but very few do. I'm obviously in a minority going by attendance figures !

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Not cheap nowadays for any sporting event.:eeek::Yikes:

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Does anyone know why the Aussies are over here this summer?

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A one day tournament...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41158650

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Lets hope the wicket at Old Trafford on the 24th is as good as todays strip, 742 runs scored in one day. :shocked:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/44355481

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That is the vexed question Jim as different strips can be totally different.

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The wickets at old Trafford have been very true recently, unless there is a dramatic change in the weather I predict another shirt front.

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Well you know what the British weather can be like Jim.;)

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Money. The Ashes mean less and less.

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Well come 2019 they will mean more Mr K..;)

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Good warm up game for Englands ODI team today.:rolleyes:

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Perhaps they got some tips from our rugby union side this weekend Jim.:rolleyes:

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Better performance, so far.;)

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Given the strength of the opposition.;)

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The Aussies are just over here for a bit of shopping. No intensity in these fixtures anymore, too much one dayers, ball tampering and match fixing. Should be playing a deciding Test against Pakistan, now they do know how to tamper with the ball ;)

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Granted, it’s not Scotland or Bangladesh.:D

Will be interesting to see this 6ft 8 Aussie quick.

Bloody hell, very interesting.:shocked:

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Perhaps you geeded him up too much Jim.;)

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I did say ‘so far’. :rolleyes:

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Old habits die hard sadly.:(

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But this is the ODI number 1 ranked team not the test team.

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Still inconsistent IMO.

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Anyone else watching the cricket on VM getting pixellation on either HD or SD?

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+1

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Seems to have settled down now, perhaps it was Englands batting that upset the pixels. :)

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What entertainment Jim.:D

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Stunning catch from Roy/Overton just now, :clap:

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I’m taking the credit for that win, if I hadn’t set off home when the 8th wicket went down it would have been all over by 4:30.

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Your influence knows no ends Jim.:D

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Buttler on fire again.:cool:

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England doing better in Cardiff than at Old Trafford on Tuesday.:cool:

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Perhaps its because of your non appearance Jim.:naughty:

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Come on, they beat Australia whilst I was watching ( most of it );)

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Stuff the footy, this is some last over.

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:D:D

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Sometimes it’s hard juggling all you devices and feeds, footy on the TV, England cricket on the iPad and Lancashire cricket score on mobile, after last nights loss to Worcestershire off the penultimate ball last night at Old Trafford that I was at it looks like a more comfortable game so far at Derby.:cool:

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You can say that again as its a bit like needing four hands instead of the two we have just got.

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They ain't doing that bad today either thus so far.:)

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You where saying.:rolleyes:

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Big mouth strikes again Jim..;)

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Cricket team emulating the footy team, start off well then fall apart.:(

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You have become rather pessimistic lately Jim.;)

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Left arm leg spinners, whatever sneaky tricks will India come up with next, England’s batsman haven’t a clue how to play him.:(

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I think the word you needed was realistic Den. :rolleyes:

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This will be over with 10 overs to go..

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Well England and Joe Root in particular seem to have worked out this left arm leggy from India just in time for the test series. :cool:

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Nice to beat the Indians in a one day series for once Jim.:)

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We do seem to have worked out their mystery spinners (famous last words !)

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Big game for me tomorrow in the T20 Blast, Lancashire v Yorkshire or should that be Lancashire v England. All of the contracted players have been released for this game so Root, Plunkett, Willey, Bairstow and Rashid are all available to play for Yorkshire, we have Joss Buttler available.


Should be a cracker, Lancs on a good run of T20 form and Yorks with all their stars playing.

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And it's on Sky Sports Mix, ie. you don't need Sky Sports to watch. Afraid you'll lose to Yorkshires best ;)

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All set on our TV tonight and being a man of neutrality l hope the best team wins.

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they will Den ;)

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Sadly the local weather forecast suggests it may be the winner.:(

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At Old Trafford now, covers on and it's p***ing down. Looking like a late start and a five or six over thrash.:(

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Watching some of the racing earlier at Haydock and sadly it was pouring down there Jim and that can't be that far from Old Trafford.

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Sure I just saw the sun come out and water disappearing down a massive plughole in the center of the pitch. Doesn't look to many of the promised 20000 in....

7:45 start!! Get out there, it's tropical weather for Manchester !

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Still think Yorkshire will win Mr K?

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I think the unnatural Lancashire air/grass has badly affected our players. However looks like rain to me and they should call it off now as a precaution ;)

---------- Post added at 21:54 ---------- Previous post was at 20:58 ----------

Never did like 20/20, 14/14 is even worse ! Well played L*****,*ire I guess :cry:

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Well that was close, great from both sides but once again the Red Rose prevails.:cool:

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A game of 'proper' 4 day cricket starts Sunday, then we'll see which rose is best ;)

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l bet it got you into a muck sweat though.:)

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Result was never in doubt. :shocked: possibly one of the best T20 matches I have seen and as a test match fan I still found it immensely entertaining.

Busy day for me on Friday 10th of August due to the TV scheduling idiots who just don’t give a damn or use any common sense.

Lancashires’ last home game in the T20 group stage starts at 6:30 on August th, Man United kick off at the other Old Trafford at 8:00 the same evening.:mad:

I will go to the cricket then leave early to watch the footy, the chaos on the local transport system doesn’t bear thinking about.:(

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Yorkshire won the toss and decided to bat.:D

Looking at the scorecard it appears that Clark got a hat trick.

Some hat trick , Joe Root, Kane Williamson and Jonny Bairstow .:cool:

That’s the world ranked 3rd 4th and 16th test batsmen in the world.

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How come Yorkshire with all their resources and England players like Plunkett available are able to sign a bowler, Poysden from another county for just this one game.

It’s like United borrowing Harry Kane for a match, stupid rules.:rolleyes:

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Will be a huge blow for Lancashire if Livingstone takes no further part. As Habeeb is a walking wicket they are 2 down before they start.

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Interesting game looks like it could be over in 2 days. Don't think they've all switched off from 20/20 mode. Oh for Geoffrey Boycott to make a come back (his recent quadruple heart bypass might delay his return to the squad though ;) )

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TBH Both teams have batted poorly all season long in red ball cricket, that’s why they are near the bottom of the table.

Haseeb Hameed might as well leave his bat at home, he has been out four times in his last five innings not playing a stroke and scored very few runs either.:rolleyes:

Yorkshire already 21 for 3, all caught by the keeper, it is a really steamy, overcast morning, just hope the sun breaks through later.