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Mr K	19-09-2021 19:10

UK carbon dioxide shortage could ‘cancel Christmas’, warns turkey supplier

https://www.theguardian.com/business...urkey-supplier

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The owner of the UK’s biggest poultry supplier has added his voice to UK food producers’ concerns over a shortage of carbon dioxide gas, saying the supply of turkeys for Christmas will be affected.

Ranjit Singh Boparan, the owner of Bernard Matthews and 2 Sisters Food Group, said the closure of two large fertiliser plants in Teesside and Cheshire – which produce CO2 as a byproduct – due to a sharp rise in gas prices has hit supply to the food industry, already affected by a shortage of workers.

CO2 is essential to the humane slaughter of livestock, extends the shelf life of products and is vital to cooling systems for refrigeration purposes, industry leaders have said.

Good news for livestock! Executions are being postponed.

Good news for the McCartneys too :)

We probably won't have any gas to cook anything by Xmas anyway. Isn't it wonderful being an independent nation ? ;)

Mad Max

19-09-2021 19:42

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36093731)

https://www.theguardian.com/business...urkey-supplier

Good news for livestock! Executions are being postponed.

Good news for the McCartneys too :)

We probably won't have any gas to cook anything by Xmas anyway. Isn't it wonderful being an independent nation ? ;)

It certainly is, look at how well the vaccinations went!

papa smurf

19-09-2021 19:49

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36093731)

Pheasant shooting starts 1 oct ba-boom.

Chris

19-09-2021 20:19

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36093731)

Even the Grauniad isn’t trying to blame Brexit for this one. You really are a stuck record.

1andrew1

20-09-2021 10:29

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093742)

Even the Grauniad isn’t trying to blame Brexit for this one. You really are a stuck record.

Sky News provides a list of reasons as to why energy prices are higher and Brexit was not amongst them.
https://news.sky.com/story/whats-beh...ustry-12410497

I can only assume that Mr K was recalling Johnson's promise to cut VAT on energy prices if we left the EU.

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EU'LL NEVER BELIEVE IT Boris promises cheaper household gas bills if Brits back Brexit

EXCLUSIVE: The Former Mayor of London claims leaving the EU will mean ministers can slash the price of our gas bills

BORIS Johnson and Michael Gove today promise to scrap VAT on household energy bills if Britain backs a Brexit.

In the first cash sweetener of the EU Referendum campaign, they argue that leaving the EU will allow ministers to bin the "unfair and damaging" £2 billion a year tax on gas and electricity prices.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/121870...s-back-brexit/

Chris

20-09-2021 10:34

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36093761)

I can’t see any promise to cut VAT on fuel in that article - simply an observation from leave campaigners that such a thing would be possible (which it is). The Sun appears then to have extrapolated a promise from that.

At the risk of going over very old ground yet again, a referendum campaign is not an election. There is no manifesto. The debate is concerned with what is possible under the different scenarios voters will chose from, not a list of promises.

Pierre

20-09-2021 10:36

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36093731)

I buy mine from a local farm.

Sephiroth

20-09-2021 10:58

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36093731)

Germany won't be any better off than we.

Mick	20-09-2021 11:35

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093742)

Even the Grauniad isn’t trying to blame Brexit for this one. You really are a stuck record.

He is. And if Mr K thinks he can circumvent his permanent exclusion from the Brexit topic, by bringing it to here, he can think again. #WasNotBornYesterday.

Hom3r

20-09-2021 11:47

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I believe we would have been in a better situation if Coronavirus hadn't hit.

1andrew1

20-09-2021 11:55

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36093767)

Germany won't be any better of than we.

We're in a slightly worse situation than Germany as our inter-connector with France is damaged with only 50% capacity until Spring next year. I appreciate this is for electricity but it impacts on the energy market.

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36093777)

I believe we would have been in a better situation if Coronavirus hadn't hit.

Agreed - the Sky News article reported that a number of North Sea gas platforms have been closed for planned maintenance which had previously been postponed due to Covid.

Halcyon

20-09-2021 12:09

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So are chickens gassed? Seems very cruel.

TheDaddy

20-09-2021 12:12

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36093736)

It certainly is, look at how well the vaccinations went!

Went and not is going being very appropriate

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36093742)

Even the Grauniad isn’t trying to blame Brexit for this one. You really are a stuck record.

I'm not in the best of health at the moment but iirc isn't there some sort of integrated eu energy market meant to insulate against such price hikes, basically are they paying as much as us? Plus as per the first post those animals aren't getting a stay of execution, there is talk of them bring culled as there's no one in the abattoirs or meat processing plants to deal with them, might as well shut them permanently now rather than put of the inevitable

1andrew1

20-09-2021 13:07

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Originally Posted by Halcyon (Post 36093780)

So are chickens gassed? Seems very cruel.

Stunning uses CO2, then they are killed.

Sephiroth

20-09-2021 13:12

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36093787)

Stunning uses CO2, then they are killed.

Maybe they'll use to other stunning methods - they are all well tried. Seems a bit convoluted to use a variant of the German method.

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