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Dude111 28-03-2021 06:07

I just got the original apple logo paper label PART 1 of the white album on cassette!

IT IS ABSOLUTETLY INSANE!!!!!!

I would not want the 1976 capital re-issue (Or newer ones) as it probably sounds like crap (digital bin,etc)

They only wanted $1 for this!!!! -- Most tapes they charge $2 for but this one is a specialty so I told them what tape I got "A beatles tape" which I thought for sure they would want more than $2 for!!! -- They only wanted 1!

When I go back to that record store,Im giving them $5 for it as its insane... Its the first release (1970 I think) and it sounds insane!!! (No dolby,etc)

Now to find the 1st release of part 2!!!

Stephen 28-03-2021 14:45

Re: The Beatles white album on cassette
 
I bought the 50th anniversary record released a couple of years ago. The music has never sounded better. Digitally remastered and cleaned up.

Taf 28-03-2021 16:11

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I was offered the 50th Anniversary commemoration T shirt for only $99!

Dude111 29-03-2021 06:25

I would say its probably one of thier BEST albums!!

Hugh 29-03-2021 13:36

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I preferred their later stuff - Definitely Maybe & (What’s The Story) Morning Glory...

:D

Carth 29-03-2021 14:34

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36075679)
I preferred their later stuff - Definitely Maybe & (What’s The Story) Morning Glory...

:D

like it :rofl:

OLD BOY 04-04-2021 13:22

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36075637)
I would say its probably one of thier BEST albums!!

The stream is a bit disappointing. The blackbird singing in ‘Blackbird’, and the pigs grunting in ‘Piggies’ are out of sync, which is really annoying!

Dude111 09-04-2021 22:45

Im have to listen closely to those songs next time I listen to that cassette :)

OLD BOY 11-04-2021 19:00

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You may need to compare it with the vinyl version if you’re not sure what I mean.

The aeroplane on ‘Back in the USSR’ doesn’t sound too good either compared to the original.

Dude111 15-04-2021 08:44

Yea I listen to the cassette in MONO and on Back in the USSR I hear aeroplane noises all thru it when usually I just hear the song (No noises) Is that how its supposed to be??? (Aeroplane sounds all thru song)

It doesnt sound bad but Im curious... (Maybe I didnt notice them before listening in Stereo I dunno - Alot of times listening to stuff to MONO you hear stuff you couldnt before)

Stephen 15-04-2021 10:10

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By its very nature you would hear more listening in stereo. When The Beatles started recording in Atereo they really went for it. With different instruments moving between left and right as well as vocals that drift across the sound stage.

Dude111 16-04-2021 01:57

Hmmmmm thats interesting Stephen :)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
The blackbird singing in ‘Blackbird’, and the pigs grunting in ‘Piggies’ are out of sync, which is really annoying!

I just listenend to the cassette again..... Blackbird sounds good and Piggies they grunt @ the end and sound ok......... (This casette is the first anaogue release (Same as on the original record))

Stephen 16-04-2021 09:10

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The 50th reissue was totally remastered from the original recordings and worked on by Giles Martin. The actual recording tapes and all the different takes were utilised with all the same equipment used at the time the record was made. They wanted it to sound the best it possibly could. Abbey Road had the same treatment.

OLD BOY 16-04-2021 16:19

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36077042)
Hmmmmm thats interesting Stephen :)

I just listenend to the cassette again..... Blackbird sounds good and Piggies they grunt @ the end and sound ok......... (This casette is the first anaogue release (Same as on the original record))

Yes, but compare that cassette with the stream. You will then see what I mean. I assume the sound of the aeroplane, the blackbird and the pigs were added separately, but they put them in the wrong place. It’s bloody sacrilege!

Stephen 16-04-2021 17:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36077065)
Yes, but compare that cassette with the stream. You will then see what I mean. I assume the sound of the aeroplane, the blackbird and the pigs were added separately, but they put them in the wrong place. It’s bloody sacrilege!

Are you talking about the version on Spotify?

If it's the same as the newly remastered 50th anniversary vinyl then the whole album was completely remastered and mixed using the original tapes and equipment. They used different takes of some parts of songs so it's likely intentional that the sounds are in different places than they originally were.

OLD BOY 16-04-2021 18:04

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36077069)
Are you talking about the version on Spotify?

If it's the same as the newly remastered 50th anniversary vinyl then the whole album was completely remastered and mixed using the original tapes and equipment. They used different takes of some parts of songs so it's likely intentional that the sounds are in different places than they originally were.

I haven't heard the Spotify version, but I have heard it on YouTube Music and another music streamer (Amazon I think it was), and they were both the same.

I very much doubt those re-mastering the album did this deliberately. They've basically ruined these tracks for me.

Stephen 16-04-2021 19:05

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If those two streams were the 2018 remasters then it is likely deliberate if they were both the same.

OLD BOY 16-04-2021 20:07

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36077077)
If those two streams were the 2018 remasters then it is likely deliberate if they were both the same.

What you seem to be saying is that they deliberately put those sounds in the wrong place, which doesn’t really make sense to me at all. Why would they do that?

Stephen 16-04-2021 20:15

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They may be in a different place to the original release. But that doesn't make it wrong. Spotify has the Ltd edition of the album that includes alternate takes and different versions of many of the songs. They used the original recording notes too to ensure everything was as close to the original vision for the songs.

Dude111 17-04-2021 18:57

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
What you seem to be saying is that they deliberately put those sounds in the wrong place, which doesn’t really make sense to me at all. Why would they do that?

Basically because NOTHING IS PURE anymore,its mostly crap.

Heres those songs from that album,do you hear the same in these??

http://hcmaslov.d-real.sci-nnov.ru/public/mp3/Beatles/10%20White%20Album

OLD BOY 17-04-2021 21:15

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36077083)
They may be in a different place to the original release. But that doesn't make it wrong. Spotify has the Ltd edition of the album that includes alternate takes and different versions of many of the songs. They used the original recording notes too to ensure everything was as close to the original vision for the songs.

It is wrong, because it’s not as the artists intended. If they did this deliberately, they are Philistines. :mad::mad:

More likely, they were just plain ignorant.

Stephen 17-04-2021 21:25

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How do you know it's not as the artists intended? The producers may have done what they thought was right at the time, but not as they planned.

Look at Let it Be Naked. It sounds so much better for being stripped baked and more basic.

Hugh 17-04-2021 21:36

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36077159)
It is wrong, because it’s not as the artists intended. If they did this deliberately, they are Philistines. :mad::mad:

More likely, they were just plain ignorant.

Paul McCartney likes it...

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/...rsary-release/
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Paul was asked if he had “finished preparing the 50th anniversary package” of the 1968 double album and responded by saying “It’s all in place, I’ve just got a couple of essays [to approve]. It’s all lined up and it’s really good.”

He went on to say that “The album itself is very cool and it sounds like you’re in the room; that’s the great thing about doing remasters.
As does Ringo...

https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/...lbum-remaster/

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“It’s always been one of my favourite albums,” Ringo tells uDiscover Music. “There’s a lot of stuff that nobody’s ever heard and George’s house sessions. But the actual remastering (because of the technology we have today) is much clearer, and the drums are a little higher, so I love it.”

Dude111 18-04-2021 03:25

OLD BOY did you listen to the songs??

I listenend to PIGGIES but to be frank I dont like the sound compared to my analogue cassette...

Carth 18-04-2021 11:21

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I've always been a music person, I would much rather listen to music than watch TV for example.

Over the years (and there are many) I've amassed a nice collection of the stuff I enjoy and listen to. I've also bought, or heard elsewhere, some of the 'remastered' stuff that is supposed to sound better.

My opinion:
I've listened to many tracks so many times that they are ingrained into memory, all the subtle nuances, the guitar tones, the 'background' ambience, the cymbals, how the song resonates etc . . it's all there.
When I hear the same track that is remastered it's different to how I know it, it's not the same song, and therefore my feeling is that it is 'not as good' as the original.

Some may think it's definitely better, some will say worse, some may not even hear a difference, it's all down to how you yourself want that track to sound ;)

Dude111 14-09-2021 09:11

Im trying to find PART 2 of the white album on cassette BUT I CAN ONLY FIND A NEWER RELEASE (Capital and not APPLE RECORDS) -- I assume the capital re-issues do not sound as good being later in the 70s...


PART 1 is on PAPER LABELS and says APPLE RECORDS . Didnt they do the 2nd cassette at the same time??

Very sad if its not out there on the original apple label... Part 1 is excellent and has the better songs anyway (Back in the ussr,etc)

OLD BOY 14-09-2021 11:49

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36077161)

We’re not talking about the same thing, Hugh. I’m talking about the streamed version of the album available on the Apple and YouTube streamers.

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36077167)
OLD BOY did you listen to the songs??

I listenend to PIGGIES but to be frank I dont like the sound compared to my analogue cassette...

I have only listened to the original and the other version I mentioned. I think this must be a newer version.

In the streamed version I have, the sounds of the blackbird and the pigs are in the wrong place.

Stephen 14-09-2021 11:57

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36092954)
Im trying to find PART 2 of the white album on cassette BUT I CAN ONLY FIND A NEWER RELEASE (Capital and not APPLE RECORDS) -- I assume the capital re-issues do not sound as good being later in the 70s...


PART 1 is on PAPER LABELS and says APPLE RECORDS . Didnt they do the 2nd cassette at the same time??

Very sad if its not out there on the original apple label... Part 1 is excellent and has the better songs anyway (Back in the ussr,etc)

I don't imagine it will sound any worse. Being released in the 70s. It will probably sound like it's played through cotton wool. Tapes were not the best format at all. Plus they were both probably mastered from the same source.

Dude111 14-09-2021 21:43

Yea quite possibly.......

Dude111 12-05-2022 19:46

I just found/ordered the original paper label release of part 2 of The Beatles WHITE ALBUM so now I have the whole album on the first release cassettes.... (Probably 1970 or 69 im not sure)

Stephen 12-05-2022 20:01

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It was 1968 I believe.

Dude111 14-05-2022 04:06

Yea Im not sure when the first cassettes were released.... 1970 I think im not sure... (That label stoped using paper labels early so.....)

Stephen 14-05-2022 10:03

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I googled and first cassette was 1968. I'm not just guessing.

Dude111 20-07-2022 22:02

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Originally Posted by Stephen
I don't imagine it will sound any worse..

Well I first had a 1975 cassette release of Woodstock 69 Stevie and it sounded thin and disgusting like it came from a digital bin.... I got rid of those and got the first 1970 releases which sound goregous....


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