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adzii_nufc 08-05-2020 17:46
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
 
It hasn't solved the pressing issue.

It's still highly unlikely fan attendance will be a thing going forward, for at least the remainder of 2020. Explained on numerous occasions how the PL is barely affected by this but it still remains a massive issue for EFL clubs that can't afford the loss of match day revenue.

I'd originally thought of an agreement to stream games at ticket price cost to offset some losses but this will just cause friction with season ticket holders.

adzii_nufc 08-05-2020 19:57
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
 
Fairly dire news coming out of Sunderland football club. The clubs parachute payments were used by the owners to leverage the buyout and haven't been paid back along with a £3 million investment from a Uruguayan politician in return for 20% of the club turning out to be an investment of £1, not a million, a literal quid. It all balanced on new owners being found whom have since pulled out of the deal and now Sunderland face a £16 million shortfall and certain administration.

Just to clarify how dodgy this was. The owners used the club to write off the parachute payments debt they borrowed.

denphone 08-05-2020 20:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 36034336)
Fairly dire news coming out of Sunderland football club. The clubs parachute payments were used by the owners to leverage the buyout and haven't been paid back along with a £3 million investment from a Uruguayan politician in return for 20% of the club turning out to be an investment of £1, not a million, a literal quid. It all balanced on new owners being found whom have since pulled out of the deal and now Sunderland face a £16 million shortfall and certain administration.

Just to clarify how dodgy this was. The owners used the club to write off the parachute payments debt they borrowed.
Good grief that is as dodgy as it can get..

adzii_nufc 10-05-2020 02:09
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Newcastle United appear on the Saudi project and vision 2030 profiles.

Would be awfully embarrassing if it failed now. :D

denphone 10-05-2020 05:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 36034491)
Newcastle United appear on the Saudi project and vision 2030 profiles.

Would be awfully embarrassing if it failed now. :D
Come Adzii things can't go tits up that quickly.;)

Hom3r 10-05-2020 16:24
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
 
Newcastle takeover: Moral values should prevail, Khashoggi's fiancee says

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52601464

iadom 10-05-2020 16:40
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When moral values come up against money there is usually only one winner.:rolleyes:

denphone 10-05-2020 16:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom (Post 36034538)
When moral values come up against money there is usually only one winner.:rolleyes:
Exactly Jim..

adzii_nufc 10-05-2020 18:52
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Usually I'd just agree but I'm sitting this one out, there's no winners. We're either focusing on a single man's death or excessive human rights violations as a whole. It has to be the latter and if its the latter you lose credibility when you're in bed with Erdoğan, which she is.

Thus you're either against it all or against nothing at all. You don't get to pick and choose and then claim a moral high ground. There shouldn't be sides here. Sides are for political arguments and agendas. You can't talk of moral values when you're being backed by a borderline dictator.

All I really see here is Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Qatar all lecturing each other about morals and rights. Then countries with the power to change it simply not caring.

But they still committed a crime, but then so did X country and so forth. You see why it's a never ending circle of hypocrisy and nonsense, people spend more time trying to discredit the other than actually debating human rights.

nomadking 10-05-2020 19:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36034312)
Quote:
{On Friday morning The Athletic reported that the EFL will tell clubs in League One and League Two there is no chance of playing any more games and ask them to vote on a method to decide promotion and relegation.}

Nice swerve by the EFL . . . whatever the outcome there will be clubs unhappy at the final decision, any potential legal actions thrown towards the EFL will be met with "nothing to do with us, you lot voted for it"

Typical high level management, all money no responsibility :D
Six of the nine directors come from the clubs. I should imagine the clubs have always had the final say on major things, just as with the Premier League.

denphone 11-05-2020 17:17
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The UK government has given permission for the Premier League and other professional sports to return behind closed doors from 1 June.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ight-to-resume

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The document advises that “organisations should prepare accordingly” for any reopening but states any progress would be dependent on the government’s five tests, which include a “sustained and consistent fall” in the daily death rate as well as the rate of infection decreasing to “manageable levels”.

Chris 12-05-2020 09:13
Re: Season 2019/2020 Football
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36034659)
The UK government has given permission for the Premier League and other professional sports to return behind closed doors from 1 June.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ight-to-resume
It has done nothing of the sort.

It has said it hopes it will be possible from 1 June and it definitely won’t be any earlier. But if their five virus tests aren’t met it could still be a lot later.

Absolutely no “permission” has been given for anything.

denphone 12-05-2020 09:16
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36034696)
It has done nothing of the sort.

It has said it hopes it will be possible from 1 June and it definitely won’t be any earlier. But if their five virus tests aren’t met it could still be a lot later.

Absolutely no “permission” has been given for anything.
l never said that as you know as well as l do that until the 5 tests are met there is no chance of football returning.

Chris 12-05-2020 09:44
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36034697)
l never said that as you know as well as l do that until the 5 tests are met there is no chance of football returning.
Helpfully, your post is still there, and quoted in my post, so it is very obvious that that’s exactly what you did say.

Here it is again:

Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36034659)
The UK government has given permission for the Premier League and other professional sports to return behind closed doors from 1 June.

https://www.theguardian.com/football...ight-to-resume
It has not given permission for anything to restart from 1 June.

denphone 12-05-2020 09:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36034700)
Helpfully, your post is still there, and quoted in my post, so it is very obvious that that’s exactly what you did say.

Here it is again:



It has not given permission for anything to restart from 1 June.
One has to open the link to read the full story which then is more explanatory.

Yes l should have phrased it better granted.


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