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Think you will find most ISP's will be capped in some form soon. Might be wrong might be right :) :LOL:

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I'd love to try AOL's great-sounding unmetered product, but not at the expense of having their software on my PC.

Why will they not make it optional? There are many 'experienced' users who would happily try their product if it could be sold with an option to be 'product only' and not have the software.

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Well that was one of my concerns, but a friend of mine who is with AOL, says you can just get rid of the software and put in your own settings, like with any other ISP. I've not seen it or tried it myself. Having to use the AOL software would really put me off, i've never been a fan of bundled software.

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That's the budget version. They offer a normal broadband service with 30GB a month. Which is cheaper than NTL.

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you and me both , but as aol = devil spawn then no thankyou :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd:

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Yes but ADSL isn't as good as Cable I don't think :p:

I remember when they said broadband was "always on" internet connection, I think with all these bandwidth limits they don't say that any more. Well some ISP's do, such as BullDog and Satelite ISP's, that why I'm going with satelite when I get the money.

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ntl do. It is 'always on' because it's never off!

Always on has no bearing on the amount you download. It's not like the old dialup restrictions some firms had, about how many hours a month you could be connected. I still laugh nostalgically when I think about that!

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It's the same principle though. On 1.5mb you will be allowed under 2 hours of full useage per day. It's a bit like getting your shopping for cheaper if you get the same amount of items, but do it slower. And if you rush, you get charged extra. :rolleyes: :td: :rolleyes:

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15GB per month still doesn't beat NTL's :D

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Yes but if the bandwidth gets capped, when you use it I think you get cut off until the next day or month. So that basically isn't "always on" internet ;)

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I thought the only people that would get letters were those getting their BB through the STB?

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No, it includes people with the SCAM as well. Basically any one who has broadband with NTL get the limit.

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I think it is all about what area you live in. And whether your area is heavily contended. If not many people have BB in your area you can do what you like. If it's a heavily used area they'll crack down on you pretty fast.

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If that was the case, people would leave NTL. EVERY ONE has this "guide", if it was like that it wouldn't be fair :erm:

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It is now optional for ADSL users. You can use your AOL Master screen name + password on your router = ADSL connection. And the connection itself seems like a typical ADSL line.

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Anyway my speed hasn't been increased yet.

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still wouldnt trust aol :disturbd: :disturbd: :disturbd:

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Like getting the same cap on 3 different teirs is fair? :D

As far as i know they are the facts though. Ntl are only sending out letters to offenders in highly contended areas. Can someone back me up on this? I read it on here, but can't remember where.

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DieDie i dont get what you are getting at.

BT 512kbps 15gb bandwidth 24.99

NTL 750kbps 30gb bandwidth 24.99

Whats the debate about? :confused:

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I think we have slighty shifted off topic now - Any chance we can get back on topic. Thanks.

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Sorry, i thought it was 30GB. Still leaves AOL ahead of the rest. Along with the likes of Bulldog. It's just frustrating to see other people getting a much better deal with other providers.

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Received a letter today detailing the speed increases and saying upgrade programme starts in August.


Letter also details the price changes for telephone and TV packages.


I am in the Poole area - ex CWC.


BeeJay

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OI! I said that last month, :p Nice to see im not the only one with that opinion though, if it maximises profit, they'll do it, and so far it looks like it might be working for wanadont and British Hellcom, so caps probably will invade most ISP's :p

Also *ON TOPIC* Im in on the Biggleswade UBR , not upgraded, yet, will inform if it changes.

EDIT : Blady ell I cant even spell where I live, oops :dunce:

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you cant spell "bloody hell" either :)

I got my bill though the post yesterday but still nothing about the upgrades.

Wirral - exCWC

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Ok, I am supposed to be on a 150k connection, but I just ran a speed test and it says I downloaded at 240kbs, so, I thought hmmm, then I ran it again and this time I downloaded at 155kbs. Anyone know whats going on? I am in the Warrington area, if that helps anyway...

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Could be just a spike, some times you can get that.

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Can someone scan this letter in then?!?

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Can confirm that Warrington has not been done yet here's why


Wed, 28 Jul 2004 22:28:31 UTC
1st 128K took 1063 ms = 123304 Bytes/sec = approx 1026 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1078 ms = 121588 Bytes/sec = approx 1012 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1062 ms = 123420 Bytes/sec = approx 1027 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1063 ms = 123304 Bytes/sec = approx 1026 kbits/sec

I am on 1 meg

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one point although off topic.

Just because bt openworld has a low cap that isnt a representative of ADSL, there are still numerous isps uncapped and some who are capped but have a uncapped product still available.

on topic no upgrade here yet but then again leics isnt supposed to be until 1 august so I will expect it then even tho thats a sunday.

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hi and :welcome: to the site , are you using sacm or stb :)

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I am using STB

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double the download speed of a sacm if you are in the right area :)

not sure what the right area is , but i am sure someone will let us know :erm:

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Will this speed boost make pages load quicker or just download speeds faster ? :dunce:

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Both, remember to view a website you have to download it, so yes they will be called up faster, :-)

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if you stay on the 150k service you wont notice any difference because you are already getting the faster speed now by the sound of it :erm:

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Thank you :)

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I am on 600k but most of the time it doesn't feel like it :angel:

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sorry crossed posts there , it is a bit too early for me :D :D :D , yes if you are on the 600 service then you should notice an improvement :)

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Oooh - My speed is measured as 181.00kbps in 150/300k STB in leeds...

anyone want to take a guess as to what that means?

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It's weird, my speeds are up to 180kbs on a 150k connection. I dunno if it's just that people (like me) on a STB get a higher speed than 150k anyway because NTL's interactive service needs a higher speed than 150k (I think it's 256k?)

Hmmmm

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Yes. STB customers who are on 150k are actually on 256k. So you will get varied speed results. Incidentally, when the speed goes up to 300k, you will only be gaining 44k, so wont really notice it.

However, SACM customers who are on 150k will notice it...

Still no upgrade in Oldham :(

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Btw, since i posted my speedtest site yesterday, hundreds of people have taken it, and NO-ONE has got higher than a 1mb connection.

Hmm..... maybe this means no one has been upgraded ;)

So.... People who've been upgraded...

Post your results to prove it: www.dslzoneuk.net/speedtest.php :Yikes:

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There has been some upgrades, people have been using Robin's speed test and I know of one member who is on the new 1.5MB speed as this speed test result is from Robin's speed test:-

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Actually, 150k stb customers can get speed up to 256k, but browsing remains at around 150k. using a download accelerator will give you the 256k speeds (around 30kb/s), but not using i get 18kb/s.

so the 150k to 300k increase will make a lot of difference to stb users as, but the max download speed will only change slightly - as badnbusy said.
:)

still 150k for me... :( - well it ain't august yet...so i can wait (a few more days) :sleep:

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http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...6&postcount=29

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...5&postcount=34

Is what this guy saying correct?

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Incorrect, if it was that they would call it 256k for STB, and 150k for SCAM. I think that would be too much hassle though.

You would have to pay extra if you used a STB for that speed, and the SCAM would be cheaper :p:

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The 150k limit on STB is enforced off the STB, in the routing system. Taking that out and upping the speed on the box will give true 300k instead of sort-of 256k.

No more upgrades have been done yet, if you're wondering.

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Yes apparently so - but lets just wait an see shall we. ;)

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No, he's not exactly 100% right. If he was, there wouldn't be people on STB upgraded in Manchester, would there?

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In Derby on 600k SACM and no sign of any update just yet.....

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Going to be anymore tonight? ;o)

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Well it's supposed to be starting in August, so I think it's any time after Saturday.

Still no updates here in tamworth, although my connection is faster by about 5k, must have been the updates on the cable lines they did a while ago.

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I'm in Cleveland (N.E) & i always test my cable & ADSL speed here & my cable speed hasnt risen even though there have been a couple of outages this week in my area.

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I've just done a speed test, and can confirm that I'm now on 750k. I'm in Manchester (Fallowfield). Plus I'm downloading something right now at 79kb/s. Sweet :)

I actually thought I'd get an email or something telling me of this. You;d think they'd want to brag about giving us something for "free"??

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I thought on 750k you could reach 93k/sec downloads, I can get 72/73k at home now on my 600k line.

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low 70's is about right for 600 service , how are you testing it , relying on windows download screen to tell you isnt very accurate ;)

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I think they have tested it in manchester, seems odd not a single other area has been done, and I hope that guy isnt right about other area's having to wait several week's in that case those area's should be compensated if its true.

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Compensated for what exactly?

The service you are paying for is 150k/600k/1.5meg

ntl have announced that later this year these speeds will increase.

Now you want compensation because ntl have done some areas sooner than others, but not yours????

Soory, that's totally unrealistic.

Typical of the 'compensate me' culture now prevelant in this country.

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Evidently you haven't been reading Digital Spy, where someone in Bedford reported being upgraded. There's more than just Manchester (just a part of Manchester actually) being tested.

And the point of testing is to make sure everything works - we need time to digest how things went on the night before doing any more. This strikes me as a professional way to do things, which surely should be applauded?

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Hehe - and if it all went wrong on a national rollout, because a local trial was seen as unfair... what would the cry then be? "Compensation!"

:rolleyes: sometimes it's Catch 22 :)

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So if Shell were selling petrol in manchester that gave 1 mpg more but not selling it anywhere else would you expect every user of shell petrol to be compensated

I want compensation
I want compensation
I want compensation

:banghead:

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NTL (for the uk at least) haven't officially announced any upgrade dates if im right... so in that case you have no case for 'compensation'.

As somebody said, thats the american argument..

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Not sure if this has been posted as I haven't been here for a while, but.....

75% of ntl areas should see the upgrade BY 2nd August. :Sun:

The other 25% of areas will be done by 2nd Nov gradually as these areas require Cabinate upgrades.This is official info I have received this morning ( I work here) Some may get the increase before the 2nd but by the 2nd 75% of customers should have seen the results.


So in short... in 4 days time the majority of customers will have the increase. When the Increase happends, the SACM or STB will reboot and hey presto....

Thought i'd pass the info on for those who doubt it!

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The numbers given by Hell's Child are pretty much the same as I've got. To break that down a bit, 80% of SACM should be done within 4 weeks (August 31st), and 88% within 5 weeks (September 6th). Some STB customers may have to wait until October, but it depends on your area and STB type, AFAIK. There should be a Postcode Checker available from Monday to see which areas have been upgraded.

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Hopefully should see my upgrade by Sunday then!!

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and if were not we should all seak compensation :P

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You can't actually, NTL said some time in August, so it could be the last day in August for all we know.

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I think what they said was 'late summer'.....

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Letter told me some time in August :erm:

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They could say that you already have the upgrade as they only say that you will get upto 300k / 750k / 1.5 Mb , not guarantee that you will get those speeds. Whatever speed you are getting at the moment fits the criteria that it is upto 300k / 750k / 1.5 Mb. :D :D :D

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or...maybe we should stop because i think the guy is joking :D

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I've already put my claim in.

I want compensation cos I'm not getting the speed I'm paying for.

FACT!


I'm paying for a 600k connection. It is nowhere near this speed.

(it's 700-750k)

COMPO TIME!

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does docsdiag report a higher up/down speed after the upgrade ???????? :)

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Im talking if area's get delayed several weeks, please dont confuse this with me mentioning 1 area been done now and others not.

several weeks of paying the same price as someone else in a different area for a different product especially if ntl choose to advertise the new product, will have to wait and see if area's will really get delayed several weeks, if all area's are done within the same month I think thats reasonable.

sorry missed this

"The other 25% of areas will be done by 2nd Nov gradually"

well for me 3 months of paying the same price would be wrong especially for something that was marked for late summer which would be instead early winter. There is 2 ways of looking at this yes its a free upgrade why moan or different areas subsiding others while they wait for upgrade.

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http://www.ntlworld.com/data-feeds/e...rade/index.php

look what I have found. nice new site. dunno if it was already posted.

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Please remember folks this is a massive upgrade to the network, and may take a little time to roll out everywhere, we know it's coming, so be a little patient :D

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nice page but the postcode checker doesnt work here, gives me html code.

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yeah shame the postcode part doesnt work yet, its the only bit worth checking!

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patient , patient :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

me wants it now :D :D :D

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Is it just me or does the option to find out when we'll be upgraded, in the link above, not work?

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works on a mac, but the ASP parts are not working yet

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Nice to see the database details including username and password are included! :rolleyes:

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*bursts into gales of laughter*

I'll drop someone a note - calling Security...

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They might want to also change the fact that 600K/750k is not £17.99 and never has been as its saying its still £17.99 on the link above. oops:

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LOL - If I take a screen dump can I get them on advertising it for £17.99?

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"I have got 1Mb Broadband †“ what is 1.5Mb going to be like?
All our 1Mb Broadband customers will be upgraded to 1.5Mb later this summer.

This means that you will be able to

· Download large files at lightening speed
· Email large attachments ..."

I can't quite get this statement.
How will increasing the speed from 1Mb to 1.5Mb have any effect in emailing large attachments? :confused:

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...and if you look on this FAQ page it is even cheaper... £12.49. :shocked:

http://www.ntlworld.com/data-feeds/e...rade/faq.php#5

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lol that is funny as :D

Maybe theregoing to be the "new prices"

Yer right :rolleyes:

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Why do I get the feeling that that by the time that postcode checker is working, my speed will already be upgraded, still, cant complain, much, DAMN YOU NTL!! GET THAT CHECKER WORKING!!!! :LOL:

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That *was* correct as there was a deal going on for new customers in June - half price broadband. I think its run out now though.

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im glad ntl cause trouble to people, i mean BY are perfect and look at the state of the BY section :) ntl bring us closer together :D


p.s me is praying for the postcode checker.

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Just noticed my downloads speeding up to 140kbs a second since i lost connection and had to reboot got this

Currently was on 1mb NTL. Seems im on way to 1.5 :shocked: :D :D :D :D :D :D

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I had the same exprince too :D my download went at 140kb when downloading from a server located in Ireland, it stayed at 140kb till the download finished which was like a meg, i also just used the Internet Explorer downloader.

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I have a strange occurance, all my ftp downloads are around 84kb/sec but www downloads are 70kb/sec and I havent had a modem reset.

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Do robin walkers speed test then and lets see!

ps my area doesnt seem to be done today :(, its the only thing worth waking up for, how sad :D

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I did a few tests - on that ZDnet one it show me as having very close to 1.5 but every other test i did def tell me im still on 1mbit - so not sure if that zdnet is anything to go by..

Better one:

http://www.broadbandspeedtest.net/

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Upgraded to 1mb and now this is my speed:-


ADSLGUIDE:-

Direction Actual Speed True Speed (estimated)

Downstream 1397 Kbps (174.6 KB/sec) 1508 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 224 Kbps (28.0 KB/sec) 241 Kbps (inc. overheads)


Simple Speed Test:-
1st 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec

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Postcode checker now works:

http://www.ntlworld.com/data-feeds/e...de/checker.php

:D

*EDIT*
I just tried the link and its been taken down (9.25am) WTH?

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speedchecker shows 600kbit

I got no idea why ntl dont want the postcode checker online its not good PR.