Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

You may consider my wording 'poor', but I could apply the same descriptive to your comprehension - I said nothing of the sort, have another read.

The fact that the upgrades were announced is not the issue, its the speculation and whingeing that has occurred pending the official announcement of launch date(s). Doubtless ntl, when they are satisfied everything is in place to roll-out, will make this public and advise the million + subscribers as to when they will actually receive it.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

Guess what, there would be no speculation, or whinging, if NTL gave its customers the time of day, that fact is, and remains that NTL have decided to quietly slip out the fact they are upgrading their speeds, and then expect customers to sit tight and hope for the best?, its nothing short of pathetic customer relations, and it shows that NTL UK have lost the plot, even NTL ireland have kept their customers well informed of their speed upgrade, and leaves no doubt of when it is, and what it means, what have NTL uk done? little to nothing, as a paying customer, I expect to be kept informed about developments to my service, its not much to ask, when other companies seem to do it a lot better, (Oh and before you say "why dont you move" im not in a BT ADSL area, and im not going on AOL via ntl because it would be a 50% speed drop)

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

glad ntl have now confirmed the date's, seems those customer support people 2 weeks ago were right when I reported 1st aug and the date's was known by ntl staff :D

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

yeah, im just glad i know when they start. But i wish ntl did come out and say We will start from 1st august, but ahh well, its gettin done and thats all i wanted. :)

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

Now that news has made me a happy penguin :D

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

Sorted - Just as NTL line up a new batch of "You broke the 1gb limit" letters...

Are the upload speeds changing also?

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

Iv'e heard it's only the download :(

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

nope.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

The new speeds should hopefully be in effect very soon which is great news :D
... but has anyone heard any news about increasing the 1gig a day limits? Maybe one of the NTL staff might be able to give us an idea what people think of it on the inside?

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

bluddddddddyyyyyyyyyy hell , is there anything else you want :D :D :D , :welcome: to the site btw :)

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

There is to be no change to the download limit imposed by ntl (other than the fact you will nw be able to reach it sooner than before of course!)

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

Dont mean to be pessimistic, but just been on the phone to a very knowledgeable chap at ntl support/faults who has insisted that there are still around 10,000 set top boxes that need replacing and in fact there is no date given at all!

He said that he's been given an initial date of around late October/November, regardless of SACM or STB. "Upgrades for SACM and STB will go ahead when the boxes have been replaced"

I said "ntl said late summer! October/November aint summer" - to which he replied.... "Well it is ntl you know!"

LOL.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

well i went on an emule clicking spree last night and have lined up a lot of files for my 1.5 upgrade :)

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

:p:
poo :( :(

lets hope that as usual ntl cs are wrong :p:

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

Dunno about date but there weren't 10,000 STBs that needed replacing in the first place.... :rolleyes:

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

ahhh :@:@:@, thats really irritating spose theres nothing we can do about it :@, so whats happening about the "1st August" date which was given by NTL?

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

NTL didnt give it this site did other sites have postings from NTL peeps sayin it was never 1st august. see posting from peter m here http://www.ntlhell.co.uk/forums/inde...pic=4759&st=60 and a post from another insider here http://www.ntlhell.co.uk/forums/inde...showtopic=5017

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

very confusing, as different areas have been given "apparent" dates for the upgrades which i reckon is just aload of lies

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

It will arrive when it arrives.All the speculation in the world won't change that.

Personally I'm too busy for any more of this rumour mongering(especially from erolz) so I'm unsubcribing from this now very pointless thread. :(


Incog.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

Well, we'll find out on sunday. If it goes through, then yay!

If not, It'll have to be put down as "Coming soon".

More to the point, it certainly stopped people grumbling about the price hike in the broadband... mission successful for NTL, Not quite sure I see the incentive for them to actually deliver anymore :)

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

It would royally wee me off if they didn't, I've put a lot of hard work into it!

They don't like me when I'm angry.

Patience, people of cableforum, it's on the way. Fun popping into ntlhell for a bit - few old faces in there.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

BBKing,

You don't turn green when angry? :D

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

/me hides before things get big and nasty :Yikes: :disturbd: :shocked:

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

I turn green when changing nappies, that's for sure.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

So whats this then 1.5mb come on NTL pull ur thumb out and make a 2mb or 3mb for £45-£50

I know i would be on a 3mb faster then it could download a 500kb Jpeg

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

One major reason why this hasn't happened yet is the economics around it. If people who sign up for 3Mbit are signing up to download 500+GB/month there's no money to be made there, quite the opposite to be honest (on 1Mbit you can download 300GB).

Consider somewhere like Frank's new home Canada, 100GB a month is considered massively heavy use there (that 100GB is only 3.5GB/day) and this is a place where the standard speed connections are 3 - 5Mbit and the highest speeds all the way up to 10Mbit.

Higher speeds do absolutely not equal a license to download loads more. In a way you're shooting yourself squarely in the arse here, you pay for maybe a 1/20th share, 15GB/month, can't complain when your provider baulks at letting you download 30 times that amount for twice the price.

I have 2Mbit ADSL, my standard usage along with my partner on 2 PCs is less than 20GB a month.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

The thing is, The first quote you said looks like a legal site (Could be wrong) But anyway, legal Film downloads (and possibly rental downloads) are becoming viable, and when they become widely available, I fear that ntl users would be unable to use them, perhaps there should be a unlimited bandwidth option, you pay a small fee, and for say, 24 hours, you can download all you like, It would be perfect for LEGAL downloading of films, and games.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

How big is an avarage legal film?

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

Don't know about legal downloads for good but rental for sure is becoming widely available, a few examples are in an article here:

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...-17-baig_x.htm

Downloading of games is legal too such as the case of Steam etc.

No doubt bandwidth needs will burst through the ceiling at which point it'll be up to the ISPs to provide, however still gotta say that at the moment the price of connections is probably skewed up somewhat to cater for heavier users, and with these technologies in their infancy legal demand for large amounts of data each month is still pretty small.

Even with these services you're gonna struggle to download much more than 100GB/month, going by the massive users I know of who download far more than they ever actually use.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

There are many legal films that fit on a CD. Flash movies are getting bigger and bigger, as are flash games.
Also, pornsites with movie clips, and indeed full movies. (not that i'd use them myself, ahem).

Then there are music video's, taken off MTV, etc.

Game demo's are quite big too. Some are over 300mb. And will no doubt get bigger.

There are also video's provided by musicians/bands. Especially from the Punk scenes, where commercialism is selling out. So they offer all their stuff for free on their websites.

It all mounts up, and with caps strictly enforced, we lose out.
AOL are the answer. If ntl can't provide it, go to AOL.

My connection has been upped from 600k to 750k
 

I'm in the Manchester area and my STB just restarted on its own so I looked at my download speeds and they are above 80 :D

The max I can seem to get is 86kb/695kbit :dozey:

Is this normal?

Re: My connection has been upped from 600k to 750k
 

cough - nice to know our efforts are appreciated

Well, allowing for overheads, 700k out of 750 isn't bad for starters. Lets see what the others get.

I get <500k on my '512k' ADSL, for what it's worth.

:cool:

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

It has happened

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:40:03 UTC
1st 128K took 1485 ms = 88264 Bytes/sec = approx 734 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1531 ms = 85612 Bytes/sec = approx 712 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1484 ms = 88323 Bytes/sec = approx 735 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1860 ms = 70469 Bytes/sec = approx 586 kbits/sec


on my 600 :D :D :D :D :D :D

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:42:48 UTC
1st 128K took 1594 ms = 82228 Bytes/sec = approx 684 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1500 ms = 87381 Bytes/sec = approx 727 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1531 ms = 85612 Bytes/sec = approx 712 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1500 ms = 87381 Bytes/sec = approx 727 kbits/sec


Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:43:20 UTC
1st 128K took 1516 ms = 86459 Bytes/sec = approx 719 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1500 ms = 87381 Bytes/sec = approx 727 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 2078 ms = 63076 Bytes/sec = approx 525 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1484 ms = 88323 Bytes/sec = approx 735 kbits/sec

just checked a few more times. :tu: :tu: :tu: :cool:

Re: My connection has been upped from 600k to 750k
 

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 04:43:20 UTC
1st 128K took 1516 ms = 86459 Bytes/sec = approx 719 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1500 ms = 87381 Bytes/sec = approx 727 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 2078 ms = 63076 Bytes/sec = approx 525 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1484 ms = 88323 Bytes/sec = approx 735 kbits/sec


yep mine too.

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

hmm what happened to the turbo function thing ntl was trialling where you had credits for 3mbit.

Re: My connection has been upped from 600k to 750k
 

good to know ntl are probably going to be forcefuly rebooting people's modems to get the upgrade asap. Is it just manchester so far?

Re: My connection has been upped from 600k to 750k
 

Well nothing here yet

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:53:54 UTC
1st 128K took 1822 ms = 71939 Bytes/sec = approx 599 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1823 ms = 71899 Bytes/sec = approx 598 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1823 ms = 71899 Bytes/sec = approx 598 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1972 ms = 66467 Bytes/sec = approx 553 kbits/sec

Re: CF receive broadband speed upgrade Dates
 

yes we're on!

Downstream 707 Kbps (88.4 KB/sec) 763 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream 121 Kbps (15.1 KB/sec) 130 Kbps (inc. overheads)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:23:20 UTC
1st 128K took 719 ms = 182298 Bytes/sec = approx 1517 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 734 ms = 178572 Bytes/sec = approx 1486 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 703 ms = 186447 Bytes/sec = approx 1551 kbits/sec



Manchester sacm.
Seems it just happened overnight. :)
If it works ok i,m a happy bunny. So far so good.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Hi


Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:20:00 UTC
1st 128K took 1062 ms = 123420 Bytes/sec = approx 1027 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1063 ms = 123304 Bytes/sec = approx 1026 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1078 ms = 121588 Bytes/sec = approx 1012 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1047 ms = 125188 Bytes/sec = approx 1042 kbits/sec


Nothing here yet in Warrington :( Oh well it will come :)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Defiantly on in Manchester





Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:40:37 GMT
1st 128K took 1453 ms = 90208 Bytes/sec = approx 751 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 1453 ms = 90208 Bytes/sec = approx 751 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 1469 ms = 89225 Bytes/sec = approx 742 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 1453 ms = 90208 Bytes/sec = approx 751 kbits/sec

:D:D

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

How very exiting! *wants to rush home and play*

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

now i know why our stb reset last night!
the event log says something like 'cable modem forced reboot'
now downloading at 90-92kbs :D
anyone know if it's set at 750 or 768k (750x1024) by the way?

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Heres a quick speed test for everyone to verify...............

http://www.speedtest.ndo.com/

Dave, Oldham.

Still nowt here by the way.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

There are 1000 bits in a kilobit so 750kbit = 750,000 bits.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

750 and some areas will have it, some won't yet.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

From Stockport (G Manchester) getting various results between 175 kbps and 290 kbps on a 150k STB connection (12 tests over a 10 min period). :confused:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

BBKing is there a schedule? PLEASE?! :)

Are we talking hours? Days? Weeks?

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Yes there is a schedule, no I don't control it, so I can't really say anything. Factors outside my control, don't want to get hopes up.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Thats such a tease.....it sat in front of you, can you not even comment on general areas?

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Yeh but just say it didnt happen as his schedule says, then someone you can guarantee will start shouting and ringing up complaing and probably asking for compensation. :Yikes:
No doubt quoting what they read here or were told.

But i can see your frustration.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Quite, Rone, and in any case I haven't got it sat in front of me and won't know for certain until the night when I get the final nod.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

I suspect the faster speeds are being affected by the browser cache - if I delete all cache the speeds are consistently 175 kbps :td:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

hey there - what's it like using a slooow internet connection!

:PP: :waving:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Damn you etc! If only I could catch you! *Shakes fist at young whippersnapper*

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

You can go off people you know! :cool: :angel:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Any central southies (berkshire) got a report yet? .. I'll be testing mine around 5ish when I get home

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Same here :)

No upgrade in Oldham yet (1mbit SACM)

btw, www.dslzoneuk.net/speedtest.php

< waits

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

No upgrade in Wirral yet, not to far from manchester :D (1mbit CM)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Incidentally, for the ones that have been upgraded - your IP addy hasnt changed has it?

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

No reason for it to, badnbusy.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Thought so. Just wondered if it needed a release/renew of IP's to pick it up.

Is it correct that the SACM should reboot itself when the speed has been changed, or should we manually keep rebooting it...

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

will upgrades ever happen during the day or do ntl tend to do them in the early hours?

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Early hours. We should reboot you, but if for some reason we miss you and you think your area's been done, or Christmas comes round (:P) feel free to. We'll be checking afterwards anyway.

No release/renew should be necessary.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

I didnt need to reboot mine - it was automatic. My IP has not changed.


A bit thank you to all those who've been working hard to make this happen.

:handshake

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

not happening on teesside yet :( , and i have rebooted :erm:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

I am sitting at work, and have not been able to ping my machine at home all morning. It is set to mail me if the IP address changes, so the most likely explanation seemed to be that the server had crashed.

However, having read this thread, I am starting to suspect that I have been upgraded, and either the modem did not reboot correctly, or my router got upset.

This is in Fleet on the Hampshire/Surrey border. Can anyone confirm if this area has been upgraded?

Re: BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Earlier posts state that the IP address didn't/won't change. :confused:

Re: BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

I am quite prepared to beleive that the IP address has/will not change. I was just wondering if the Fleet area had just been upgraded. It so, it would at least be a coincidence.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Perhaps your machine at home has crashed?

(ps - anyone in leeds been upgraded yet? oooh! The exitement!)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

I could learn to hate you :)

Enjoy your new speed lucky so and so:LOL:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

hehe

cant wait for a whole month of this :)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Haha acathla - I'm sure the novelty will wear off after a couple of days - and the frustration will return ;)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

i'm on 750k in stoke now :D


EDIT no i'm not :( only 557 Kbps accroding to adslguide. but 792k's according to speedtest.ndo.com. ah just done it again and got 871.50kbps that one must just pick a random number and say thats your speed :(

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

But does your e-mail work ? ;)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

yes it's fantastic... for example last week I managed to get emailed about 3 times re my monthly DD advance notice! :banghead:


:dig:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Nothing here in Cambridge yet either.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

We just got a letter this morning about the upgrades, so I can see Tamworth's isn't going to be long away.

Received letter confirming broad band upgrade
 

Yep, got the letter this morning confirming the update in August. Looks like my area is getting it soon then, no one else I know with NTL broadband has had a letter about this yet.

:D :p:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

The good news: My machine at home is back on line. Looging at the modem logs, the cable network went down at 23:57 last night.
The bad news: Dosdiag still reports that I am on a 1 meg connection, so presumably the upgrade is not the reason for the outage.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

BBking i want you to get my hopes up please :p

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Can we expect a letter before the upgrade from NTL?



I just done a speed test and Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢m still 150Kbs anyway in Glasgow.:o

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

Well, it's most likely. They should really tell us by letter (like they have for us) before they actually do it.

Re: Received letter confirming broad band upgrade
 

Not had any letter about that yet but did get a letter saying that call itemisation on the telephone bill will only be for calls over 50p unless I want to pay £1 a month for full itemisation. BT is looking even more tempting.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrade Dates
 

I am also still on 150k, I live not far from Warrington and Liverpool.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

I didnt get a letter (but aint complaining).

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Northants and still on 1MB

Hopefully it will go up in the next few days.......


I did read a post from a guy working at NTL somewhere a while ago about a big hush hush thing to increase the upload speed sometime but I cannot find the thread so any news??


FINGERS CROSSED! !
:angel: :D

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

cant really see the upload increasing, unless blueyonder upgrade theres

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

Havn't got the speed increase yet, it said some time within august, but I bet that's going to be soon since we got a letter, and no one else I know who is on NTL have a letter saying that yet :erm:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

I bet Robin's speed test has been absolutely hammered today. :D

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

Did any of the people who DID get a speed increase today, get a letter beforehand? Or in true NTL fashion, is it all a bit random and unreliable?

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

I don't get it. The company increase speeds at no extra cost and **still** it's not good enough........:rolleyes:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

I trust all those who said the planned upgrades would never happen because ntl were just trying to con customers, will now come back to this thread and confess in public they were wrong.......

It'll be a cold day in hell.....

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

Well what would you rather have? 1GB bandwidth per day or 1gb per month? (which BT offer, Wanadoo offer 2gb bandwidth, which is NO WHERE NEAR as good as NTL's 1gb per day)

I'm sticking with NTL until I can afford to move to BullDog.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

No i never got one. But my m8 who lives half a mile away did.
So some believed it , some not. :(

I did when i saw the increase early this morning tho, and for a few quid i,m happy with it.
Now if we can just sort out the e-mail server.....................


[yes there's always one :p: ]

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

Just tested mine, only 10k faster than it usually is (must have been from NTL upgrading the lines) but still the same speed at the moment. I'm gonna keep checking it each day, because I usually get disconnected of certains things, some times everything. When that happens, I'l test it ;)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

It's taking me about 10 attempts to get into (authorize, not download) one of my email accounts, i can hardly ever get newsgroups working, and i'm subject to the same cap (on my 1mb line) as someone on 150k (soon to be 300k). Not a lot to scream about there. Just means I'll exceed my limit in around 2 hours when i get the upgrade, compared to the 12 hours maximum use someone on the lower teir will get. :rolleyes:

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

nowt new there then , how about you vote with your wallet if you are not happy ;)

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

BT offers a 30GB a month limit on their BB. AOL have NO limit at all. The only thing that stops me at the moment is in my area i can only get 512k with BT. But i'm using my connection as much as i normally do, and if i ever get a letter i'm closing my account and moving to AOL, i'd rather have 24 hours a day at 512k than 2 hours a day at 1.5mb.

Re: [Merged] BB Speed Upgrades
 

I think your wrong there, my friend told me it's 1GB and he's on BT, I also saw it on the website as 1GB.