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etccarmageddon 09-07-2005 16:59

SIPGATE - has anyone any experience of it
 
In my search for relacing a BT line with a VOIP solution I discovered Vonage.co.uk.

But now I find Sipgate is even cheaper for me as there is no monthly cost... has anyone experience of it? I would be purchasing a netgear router with built in voip to sipgate. Have you used Sipgate and by what method? computer to computer or computer to landline or landline to landline? what was the call quality like?

this is the box I need

http://www.dsl-warehouse.co.uk/produ...?pr=TA612VSPUK

I can get it for around £65 elsewhere and my landline calls will be 1.2p and mobile calls 15p and 0845 3p and 0870 7.5p per min.

Kliro 09-07-2005 17:03

Re: SIPGATE - has anyone any experience of it
 
I've used it computer - computer using X-lite, quality was very good, although if you are on to more than one person it can be a bit 'scratchy' or if you are using a lot of your up/downstream. Overall though, is very good, and operates very much in the same way as a normal phone.

etccarmageddon 09-07-2005 17:05

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I've updated my post above with details of the netgear device.

Thanks for your comments Kilro. So it's ok then for me to replace my BT line with this?

Bifta 09-07-2005 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
I've updated my post above with details of the netgear device.

Thanks for your comments Kilro. So it's ok then for me to replace my BT line with this?

Bit of a risk surely? You're relying on your broadband to be up or you lose not only your internet connection but your phone too.

etccarmageddon 09-07-2005 19:26

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I've always got my orange pay as you to fall back onto.

KingPhoenix 09-07-2005 22:24

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Am i right in assuming you have ADSL or do you have Cable?

If you have ADSL... then you cant get rid of your line, as you will have nothing for your ADSL to come through..........

etccarmageddon 09-07-2005 23:10

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ntl baby!

KingPhoenix 10-07-2005 12:26

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
ntl baby!

So by the time you have laid out for all the equipment, how long should it take you to be in profit, if you were to use your NTL phone line.... Just wondering how long it takes to start making a saving, if its worth it then i might go down that route too (all be it with a BT phone line though)

etccarmageddon 10-07-2005 12:49

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If you're talking in the region of £70 for the equipment (sipgate) then assuming this cancels out the BT line rental and caller display of around £14 a month then it pays for itself in the region of 6 months.

but I've found another supplier which appears to be cheaper!

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...378#post523378

etccarmageddon 11-07-2005 14:28

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http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...hone%20Adapter

here's a cheaper bit of kit - for around £40 you can have one of these - I will report back soon on it's performance.

etccarmageddon 13-07-2005 16:35

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installed at my fiends house - he has used it today and the call quality is as good as land line. no noticable difference. and it's using sipgate.

etccarmageddon 19-07-2005 17:29

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installed at home and the sound quality is as good as if not better than my current BT line! brilliant. It was a bit of a pain to setup as it required a RJ11 to BT converter with ring capacitor from maplins but wasn't too much bother. And strangely no NAT or DMZ or other router settings were needed to link it into the outside world - bloody brilliant!

I expected there to be some micro delays on the phone conversation - none at all. Quite amazing. My current connection is from www.sipgate.co.uk as this allows you to sign up without paying anything for a uk phone number.

Cost was - £30 plus vat for the box plus £7 delivery. plus £7 for the connector I purchased from Maplin which is cheaper if purchased on line.

So total cost was around the £50 mark.

JediMaster 26-09-2006 14:39

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How do you still find sipgate?

I was going to try Skype-Out (I only use it for Pc-Pc) But I saw a few sites & I like sipgate because I can buy a Phone & Connect to NTL & NO PC online :D

Will http://www.sipgate.co.uk/voipshop/grandstream/gxp2000 & Sipgate work on my NTL 4MB (£24.99) Broadband via my www.ebuyer.com Quick Find Code: 52629 (Extra Value 54Mbps 802.11g WI-FI Wireless Cable/DSL 4 Port Broadband Router)

I like idea FREE New Number & Phone no PC switched on.......
Looking forward to your Reply

etccarmageddon 26-09-2006 14:57

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I use the linksys pap phone adaptor for my setup - which connects to my router - my standard BT phone then connects into the PAP and caller display still works! which is better than NTL can offer! The only problem is sometimes I dial out and it fails to connect plus recently call quality sometimes degrades (recently as in the last couple of weeks) - I recon NTL are traffic shaping.

for a wireless router I'd recommend linksys - find code 63763.

---------- Post added at 14:57 ---------- Previous post was at 14:56 ----------

I'm on the NTL top tier so sound quality is fine - when I was on 1meg the upload was 100k which meant poor sound for my phone calls.

TheBlueRaja 26-09-2006 15:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon (Post 34124226)
I use the linksys pap phone adaptor for my setup - which connects to my router - my standard BT phone then connects into the PAP and caller display still works! which is better than NTL can offer! The only problem is sometimes I dial out and it fails to connect plus recently call quality sometimes degrades (recently as in the last couple of weeks) - I recon NTL are traffic shaping.

for a wireless router I'd recommend linksys - find code 63763.

---------- Post added at 14:57 ---------- Previous post was at 14:56 ----------

I'm on the NTL top tier so sound quality is fine - when I was on 1meg the upload was 100k which meant poor sound for my phone calls.

I would avoid Linksys like the plague - in fact i just ripped out my Linksys kit and replaced it with Netgear and the difference is unreal - no dropouts, no problems, does exactly what it says on the tin.


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