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Stephen 15-08-2016 22:07

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
Maybe the setting of the series around the original era is for budget reasons.

Pierre 15-08-2016 22:13

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
Who do you think will take the place of "alien, robot, hologram" that acts as the foil????

I.e. Spock, Data, Odo, the Doctor, Seven of Nine etc.

General Maximus 15-08-2016 22:20

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35854273)
Maybe the setting of the series around the original era is for budget reasons.

yup because they made it crystal clear that it isn't going to tie in with the movies

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35854274)
Who do you think will take the place of "alien, robot, hologram" that acts as the foil????

I.e. Spock, Data, Odo, the Doctor, Seven of Nine etc.

it is going to be a robot (as opposed to an android) so I just pray that they make it look like a realistic technologically advanced robot and not like something from Lost in Space.

Damien 15-08-2016 22:21

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35854274)
Who do you think will take the place of "alien, robot, hologram" that acts as the foil????

I.e. Spock, Data, Odo, the Doctor, Seven of Nine etc.

I don't know although I bet they find the human condition strange and illogical!

Chris 16-08-2016 21:17

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35854277)
yup because they made it crystal clear that it isn't going to tie in with the movies


it is going to be a robot (as opposed to an android) so I just pray that they make it look like a realistic technologically advanced robot and not like something from Lost in Space.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/08/10.jpg

:D

General Maximus 16-08-2016 21:25

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
that is what I am worried about. Sometimes they go OTT is trying to make things look "classic" and they forget that we aren't in the 60's anymore and technology has moved on.

Stephen 16-08-2016 21:33

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
But the series is set in the Trek era from the 60s.

So it will have to look like tech from the 60s. It can't be more advanced than what they had when they made the original series.
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35854277)
yup because they made it crystal clear that it isn't going to tie in with the movies.

They could have set it after Voyager though. It was always to follow the timeline of the original series and movies.

I think they picked the era deliberaty to make it cheaper for sets and things.

v0id 17-08-2016 19:33

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35854459)
But the series is set in the Trek era from the 60s.

So it will have to look like tech from the 60s. It can't be more advanced than what they had when they made the original series.
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They could have set it after Voyager though. It was always to follow the timeline of the original series and movies.

I think they picked the era deliberaty to make it cheaper for sets and things.


Why? the sets didn't look cheap or look like tech from the 60s for Enterprise? :/

Stephen 17-08-2016 19:45

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
Enterprise sort of looked like an advanced submarine or something like that.

This series is 10 years prior to Kirk so will have to look very similar.

General Maximus 17-08-2016 21:06

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
and that limits them in the scope of the stories, ships, in-story technology, aliens etc which they can use because they have got to stick to what is already known and established. I enjoyed Enterprise but I think what I just said was the reason for its downfall. Look at Voyager; new quadrant means new aliens and planets which means new technology which means unlimited possibilities for stories. Even if you tried to make it adventurous and say they are out exploring space for the first time like Archer and Kirk, they can only discover what we already known about and is already part of Federation and Starfleet history. The best you can get is learning the nitty gritty details about it and exploring some stories in depth. It is probably the wrong time frame but I would love to see them cover aspects of the Federation-Klingon war similar to the odd eps in seasons 5 and 6 of DS9 covering the Dominion war.

Stephen 17-08-2016 23:47

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
Nothing to stop them discovery species only to have them wiped out or something, so they then do not exist during the Original Series timeline.

Or inventing certain technologies that do not work or aren't great.

Chris 18-08-2016 00:22

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
If the writers of Discovery obsess over the tech then the series will fail. Enterprise was turgid because they wanted to do Star Trek without a lot of the scaffolding that allows those stories to be told, then made a great song and dance about it. Thus it became a very self conscious documentary of the making of Starfleet when it should have just told rip-roaring tales that were defined by their own times.

I'm glad Discovery will be set close in time to TOS. The tech of that period is well understood. They should just go with it, and use it the way the original writers did - simply means to enable the stories they wanted to tell.

dilli-theclaw 18-08-2016 18:14

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
I still can't make up my mind about this but I am a proper sucker for Star Trek so I guess I'll be giving it a shot.

General Maximus 18-08-2016 18:24

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
I like pure scifi like Star Trek and BSG so even if it isn't good, I think I will still enjoy it more than I do most other series.

adzii_nufc 27-08-2016 00:23

Re: Star Trek: Discovery (2017)
 
Is this accurate?

The new Star Trek series coming out on CBS All Access.

From
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As much as I want it to work, I don't really see people paying per month just to watch that show, and Star Trek fans probably aren't interested in anything else they're offering. So the ratings will suck in the U.S.

The best hope is that it gets licensed to Netflix, like it is in the rest of the world.
If true and it's exclusive in the US to a separate paid subscription then he has a point, ratings won't be huge. We'll likely get it via something else of course but if it tanks in the US then it'll have a knock on effect here.

An American's glum opinion on it:
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CBS All-access will be a complete failure. $6 a month for a single channel's content is a ridiculous price. They should have joined Hulu when they had the chance, using a geek centric show to try and anchor this service only shows how stupid and out of touch they are.

Hopefully the execs behind the streaming service are fired before Star Trek gets cancelled and it can either be put on air or moved to another service.
I love Netflix and Prime Video but these American ones HBO's and CBS are the start of something stupid and costly for the rest of us. If it comes off you can bet your ass, BBC will start a version of it and other UK broadcasters will follow suit. Are we moving towards the point of paying separate sub's now for different channels. Netflix and Prime are well worth the money for value vs content. These spin offs really aren't though and need shot down before they lift off. I'm happy with the BBC content on Netflix, if they played this card I wouldn't be caught dead paying them for it whilst maintaining the platform they removed it from.


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