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passingbat 09-04-2013 17:10
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35559041)
yes and people said competition is good

But it's not competition, even though the various sources try to persuade people that it is.

True competition would be for BT and Sky to both to have all the games and see who can offer the cheapest price to viewers.

The way the system works now, with service providers trying to outbid each other for exclusive rights, can only drive prices for consumers up.

Why are the football authorities allowed to do this? They should be told to offer all matches as an option to all service providers who want them. That is true competition. Sports fans are being ripped off. And OFCOM does nothing.

paultrademark 09-04-2013 17:32
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35559059)
The simple answer is don't pay it , I agree with you all premium subs are getting way to expensive however their currently just at a level I'm ok with that said it wont take much more before I say enough is enough and cancel the premiums its the only way the likes of BT and Sky will finally get the hint.
I already refuse to pay that much, I only ever watch football and just use a family members Sky ID to login to Sky Go to watch any game that I might want to watch.

Chad 09-04-2013 18:03
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35559033)
If its that price there won't be many takers given that also Sky Sports will raise their prices again later this year by a fair bit.
Very true. The Daily Mail article confirms this:

"Sky, who had to pay far more than expected for PL rights because of BT Sport’s entry into the market, need to recoup some of that cost by charging Virgin more for their platform contract."

How much is SKY Sports going to cost SKY, Virgin and BT customers by the end of this year?

Thinks will become very clear in the next 3 to 4 months. I've got a feeling things are going to get very expensive for sports fans.

Mad Max 09-04-2013 18:06
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Thinks will become very clear in the next 3 to 4 months. I've got a feeling things are going to get very expensive for sports fans.
Well they can shove it right up their arse!

coulsontom 09-04-2013 18:26
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It's still cheaper than buying tickets to go and watch the games.

You can take in several matches each weekend. If you support a team doing well like I do (MCFC) then you usually get 2 matches a month for £36.
Plus the bonus of Champions League games to watch.

Tickets for away games cost anywhere in the region of £30-60. Often not less than £45.

My home season ticket works out at about £30 per game.

So it isn't quite as expensive as could be made out. However, they are raking it in.

Media Boy UK 09-04-2013 18:27
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Radiotoday: Absolute, talkSPORT, 5live retain deals for Premier League.

Absolute Radio, the BBC and talkSPORT have all retained their rights to live Premier League match coverage for the next seasons till 2016.

http://radiotoday.co.uk/2013/04/abso...e-retain-deals

coulsontom 09-04-2013 18:29
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35559067)
But it's not competition, even though the various sources try to persuade people that it is.

True competition would be for BT and Sky to both to have all the games and see who can offer the cheapest price to viewers.

The way the system works now, with service providers trying to outbid each other for exclusive rights, can only drive prices for consumers up.

Why are the football authorities allowed to do this? They should be told to offer all matches as an option to all service providers who want them. That is true competition. Sports fans are being ripped off. And OFCOM does nothing.
This. Head. Nail. Hits. On.

However, Sky could then sell at a loss to put BT out of business.

colin25 09-04-2013 19:46
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Originally Posted by coulsontom (Post 35559108)
This. Head. Nail. Hits. On.

However, Sky could then sell at a loss to put BT out of business.
popular phrase?

head hits on this nail..frustration making head hit nail? :)

denphone 09-04-2013 19:51
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Oh Colin you are in eloquent form tonight.;)

Mobes 10-04-2013 11:30
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35559093)
Very true. The Daily Mail article confirms this:

"Sky, who had to pay far more than expected for PL rights because of BT Sport’s entry into the market, need to recoup some of that cost by charging Virgin more for their platform contract."

How much is SKY Sports going to cost SKY, Virgin and BT customers by the end of this year?

Thinks will become very clear in the next 3 to 4 months. I've got a feeling things are going to get very expensive for sports fans.
They will all be vary aware that pricing themselves too high will mean disaster for all companies involved.

If BT sell it too high to Sky then many Sky subs. will drop sports and advertising will go down too.

If Sky pass on and put up the prices to BT & VM customers for their share then sports subs. will drop and advertising will go down too.

If VM pass on all the costs then subs to Sky Soprts & BT Sports will go down / and not happen and they will loose money.

None of the 3 players can afford to let prices spiral and they will ALL loose.

IMO BT have more to loose than the others. Get their price structuring wrong and they will go the same was an ONdigital/ITVsports channels and be gone in a couple of years.

I want Liberty Media to get together with (for example) the Disney parent company and try and buy some rights too... we need stiffer competiton!

passingbat 10-04-2013 12:06
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35559348)

I want Liberty Media to get together with (for example) the Disney parent company and try and buy some rights too... we need stiffer competiton!
I believe Liberty have already said that they have no intention of getting involved in Premium content such as sports and movies.

Doug P 10-04-2013 18:27
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Very sensibly imo

colin25 10-04-2013 20:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35559348)
They will all be vary aware that pricing themselves too high will mean disaster for all companies involved.

If BT sell it too high to Sky then many Sky subs. will drop sports and advertising will go down too.

If Sky pass on and put up the prices to BT & VM customers for their share then sports subs. will drop and advertising will go down too.

If VM pass on all the costs then subs to Sky Soprts & BT Sports will go down / and not happen and they will loose money.

None of the 3 players can afford to let prices spiral and they will ALL loose.

IMO BT have more to loose than the others. Get their price structuring wrong and they will go the same was an ONdigital/ITVsports channels and be gone in a couple of years.

I want Liberty Media to get together with (for example) the Disney parent company and try and buy some rights too... we need stiffer competiton!
Even if they were to get involved, it wouldn't be competition that would favour the consumer (us). As it would just be a bigger bidding war.

The tv rights are auctioned, all more competitors would do would be to raise the price.

The only solution would be if EPL accepted lower bids, but just can not see them doing that.

Mr Banana 10-04-2013 20:22
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Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35559078)
I already refuse to pay that much, I only ever watch football and just use a family members Sky ID to login to Sky Go to watch any game that I might want to watch.
Me too and the movies as well - works out very cheap :-)

spiderplant 11-04-2013 07:41
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Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35559348)
They will all be vary aware that pricing themselves too high will mean disaster for all companies involved.

If BT sell it too high to Sky then many Sky subs. will drop sports and advertising will go down too.
BT will be selling satellite subscriptions directly, which makes the dynamics even more complex.


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