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Oh and in our adversarial democracy, the oppositions job is to scrutinise and check, not automatically agree with whoever formed the government. |
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Adversarial is fine in all respects except where it comes to the application of a decision taken in the direct democracy element of our system. ---------- Post added at 19:54 ---------- Previous post was at 19:52 ---------- Quote:
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I wonder if the EU ever considered sending mailshots to all UK residents to put forward their point of view to try and garner support from the public, which in turn they would hope influenced the politicians?
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Britain is a Representative Democracy, not a Direct (delegate) Democracy - just repeating the same falsehood repeatedly doesn’t make it true. It states so in Hansard. https://www.parliament.uk/about/livi...ns/reformacts/ Quote:
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All the panic mongers can calm down. ---------- Post added at 22:07 ---------- Previous post was at 22:02 ---------- Quote:
So on that particular question and action that is exactly how Parliament should have worked. ---------- Post added at 22:10 ---------- Previous post was at 22:07 ---------- Quote:
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It simply isn’t possible to oblige Parliament to do anything, because Parliament can repeal any Act that attempts to do so. A referendum cannot legally oblige parliament to do something. The nearest it is possible to get is convention, which in our uncodified constitution has considerable force to restrain Parliament’s behaviour, or alternatively the threat to an MPs job via the ballot box. On the former, referendums are still a novelty in our constitution, and most of those held so far have supported the status quo, so the convention surrounding parliament’s response to them is weak. On the latter ... well perhaps we shall soon find out. One solution that has been proposed is for any future Referendum Act to include a clause that automatically enables the outcome. That is a fudge however because it still isn’t obliging Parliament to do anything and doesn’t stop Parliament intervening to repeal that legislation at the last minute. |
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If one Parliament cannot bind a future one, then we could overturn all of the EU legislation quite easily.
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The thing is there would be nothing wrong with changing the structure of how the NHS works, France and Germany do not have a monolithic healthcare service run by the government. I think the legitimate worry is the Conservatives most keen on reform do often seem to like the American system rather than the French system, the latter having far more regulation on prices e.t.c. Also remember the Americans will be in a far stronger position when it comes to negotiations given the size of their economy and the fact we'll really be needing that trade deal. ---------- Post added at 08:00 ---------- Previous post was at 07:58 ---------- Quote:
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