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Cobbydaler 16-08-2008 01:17

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SelfProtection (Post 34622142)
Speaking to you as a poster & not as a Moderator, who has managed to heat the other posters up the most this evening.

Your points do have merits, but you should debate them in an ordered fashion or tempers are likely to flair in both directions.

As that was my first post this evening, I fail to see your point...

However, I stand by my only post of the evening, cool heads are (of late) absent in this thread.

As before, this is a personal opinion...

JackSon 16-08-2008 01:19

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34622141)
Have to agree completely there.

PR spin is not required, and adds no value. No spin is required to convey the truth.

Certainly more press coverage would be welcome, but whenever the press have been approached they've been reluctant to cover this for reasons we can only speculate about.

With the exception of Chris Williams at The Register, who deserves a nomination for a journalism award, after this sorry episode is over.

No worry, and you say Rob, I'm in this for as long as it takes.

Pete.

Agreed twice (Blazing Saddles quote - Howard Johnson is right!).

PR is oly needed when you are trying to sell something (or trying to dupe people, or perhaps both). The truth doesn't need selling. It could do with publicising however, granted, but if it is to finally get though the legal system (with help from our european friends) then that would in itself generate news. The difference however is that the 'PR' therefore would be a product of the truth being found out, not the cause of.

Tarquin L-Smythe 16-08-2008 01:21

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
So far what has been done and achieved has stopped the "soon" promised webwise trial from making an appearance once again but every week the brakes are going on the Phorm bandwaggon. I,m sure the police have got over this sort of thing before as the law is in the most part on their side.

Hank 16-08-2008 01:24

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
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Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34622126)
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I'm in for the long haul. All participants welcome. Cool heads especially valued.

I'm also aware that a few pages back we were reminded that it is "extremely bad Phorm" to discuss the goings on in other forums, so I shan't add to the discussion of the content of noDPI.org

LOL Robert. And I am also in this for the long haul. I'll listen to that audio, but I'm confident it will be much the same I've heard from my local police and the same as others have heard from theirs. They are not trained to deal with RIPA issues, it's like expecting a General Practitioner to know what an Ear, Nose & Throat specialist knows about those parts of the anatomy! The police have my full support for the difficult role they play in society and it's the powers that be that need to carry the can for this mess they allowed to be created.

Yes, you're right, this is about continuing to progress with the facts about the key issues, via the relevant channels. That's why I have to "Go again" with our police, which may very well end in no further steps forward really (except educating them via forcing them to consider what their next move is, and they'll see what BT did is wrong, but that they still don't have the know-how or expertise to deal with it unfortunately)

Then I CAN go to the next stage via the EU - there's a link somewhere on this forum to the complaint form LOL. Was it Pete who said this... I will probably be best getting the detail to those on the continent sooner rather than later, so that's two photocopies needed.

DAISEY - Welcome on board... long journey ahead which might occasionally be diverted but we stay on course and when we get there it will be worth it, not just for us but for every internet user (except the dodgy advertiser middle man company!)

Hank

TheDaddy 16-08-2008 01:34

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin T (Post 34622148)
As that was my first post this evening, I fail to see your point...

However, I stand by my only post of the evening, cool heads are (of late) absent in this thread.

As before, this is a personal opinion...

He is asking you who has caused trouble this evening, presumably pointing the finger at ChrisT trouble is the truth hurts some times

Agree with you re the cool heads to, I mean some people participating in this thread actually put phorm on a par with slavery and murder :dozey:

Cobbydaler 16-08-2008 01:40

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34622160)
He is asking you who has caused trouble this evening, presumably pointing the finger at ChrisT trouble is the truth hurts some times

Agree with you re the cool heads to, I mean some people participating in this thread actually put phorm on a par with slavery and murder :dozey:

Well spotted TD, he should probably have said 'a certain moderator'.

Moderating a thread such as this is a tough job, and anyone who steps in to uphold the T&Cs is to be applauded IMO...

Tarquin L-Smythe 16-08-2008 01:51

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34622084)
I'm going to ask one more time for people to stick to the topic of preventing Phorm from being implemented on any scale across the UK and world wide.Sadly the discussion seems to be getting further and further away from that position.

Now back on topic.

I take it this did include all posters.
so Please may we? thanks in advance

warescouse 16-08-2008 02:00

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34622160)
He is asking you who has caused trouble this evening, presumably pointing the finger at ChrisT trouble is the truth hurts some times

Agree with you re the cool heads to, I mean some people participating in this thread actually put phorm on a par with slavery and murder :dozey:

Spending many days in the past trying to recover other persons data because their PC's had become infected by 121Media's ContextPlus ( Apropos rootkit?) and finding the removal very difficult, my feelings and thoughts were along the lines of I could murder the writers! :afire:
http://www.f-secure.com/sw-desc/apropos.shtml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phorm
I'll admit it. I truly hate Phorm and that hatred began before 121Media changed their name to Phorm.

Maggy 16-08-2008 02:33

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
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Originally Posted by Tarquin L-Smythe (Post 34622167)
I take it this did include all posters.
so Please may we? thanks in advance

I refer you to post 14187

I'm getting rather tired of having my moderator postings questioned publicly....Some of you seem to have a very odd idea of what a moderator's function is.So no more.The next person to do so will be facing more than a mild request to stay on topic.

Hank 16-08-2008 02:36

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
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Paul Delaney 16-08-2008 03:03

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Mick 16-08-2008 03:07

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 
Right, I have had enough of this thread and the political infighting that has almost become a daily occurrence. Some of you have come on this forum and abused its resources and then slagged off the people who operate it. I won't stand for it any longer. This was my thread and some of you have attitudes that have no place on this forum. Some of you really are so pathetic. Some of you act like complete noobs, as if you have never known what it is to have a debate.

Don't like our moderation polices, then sod off, I didn't ask you to register here, who the hell do you think you are wasting my time anyway come to think of it...? Why am I here having to write this bloody message for some of you?

Well I have had enough, its time to put this thread to bed, I won't have cocky, arrogant and obnoxious people, dictating to my fellow team members what we can and cannot do on this forum. Wise up or wake up, you choose, when you run and own your own forum, you let some smarmy gits tell what to do, see how you feel.

This Admin and his team have had enough.

This thread is now closed.


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