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denphone 22-07-2011 15:39
Norway: Terror attacks
 
There has been a explosion in Oslo at a government HQ perhaps injuring dozens of people and there is a report of two fatalities.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...q-2318850.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ity-blast.html

idi banashapan 22-07-2011 17:13
re: Norway: Terror attacks
 
looks like carnage on BBC news 24

denphone 22-07-2011 17:14
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Originally Posted by idi banashapan (Post 35276849)
looks like carnage on BBC news 24
Yes it does look very bad.

idi banashapan 22-07-2011 17:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35276852)
Yes it does look very bad.
if only 2 people died in that, then that is very, very lucky. It's also good to see that the Norwiegians are NOT making any statement on whether this is terrorism yet, rather than immediately pointing fingers without evidence.

denphone 22-07-2011 17:19
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Originally Posted by idi banashapan (Post 35276853)
if only 2 people died in that, then that is very, very lucky. It's also good to see that the Norwiegians are NOT making any statement on whether this is terrorism yet, rather than immediately pointing fingers without evidence.
Looking at the pictures first of all it looked terrible and yes its important that people don't jump to conclusions.

idi banashapan 22-07-2011 17:22
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news in - a man in police uniform has attacked a labour party youth camp with gunfire... this is looking really bad...

nomadking 22-07-2011 17:30
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35276855)
Looking at the pictures first of all it looked terrible and yes its important that people don't jump to conclusions.
Car bombs are a natural phenomenon?:rolleyes: The explosion was outside the building.

Osem 22-07-2011 17:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idi banashapan (Post 35276853)
if only 2 people died in that, then that is very, very lucky. It's also good to see that the Norwiegians are NOT making any statement on whether this is terrorism yet, rather than immediately pointing fingers without evidence.
It's the media as opposed to the authorities who normally start speculating and pointing fingers in the confused immediate aftermath of such an event.

Let's hope this and the other event you've since reported aren't terrorist linked.

denphone 22-07-2011 17:33
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35276862)
It's the media as opposed to the authorities who normally start speculating and pointing fingers in the confused immediate aftermath of such an event.

Let's hope this and the other event you've since reported aren't terrorist linked.
Yes lets do hope it is not terrorist linked.

nomadking 22-07-2011 17:43
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Of course what people mean, when saying that they hope it's not terrorist linked, is that it's not Islamic terrorism. It's hardly simply an accident.:rolleyes:

It's being reported now that the Norwegian PM was due at the meeting where shots were fired, but didn't attend.

sir_drinks_alot 22-07-2011 17:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by idi banashapan (Post 35276857)
news in - a man in police uniform has attacked a labour party youth camp with gunfire... this is looking really bad...
4 have dead in that attck :(

denphone 22-07-2011 17:48
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Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot (Post 35276870)
4 have dead in that attck :(
This is utterly sickening.

nomadking 22-07-2011 17:54
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Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot (Post 35276870)
4 have dead in that attck :(
The captions are saying 5 injured not dead.

sir_drinks_alot 22-07-2011 17:54
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35276875)
This is utterly sickening.
yes yes it is :( wonder if the two attacks are linked ?

Hugh 22-07-2011 17:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35276866)
Of course what people mean, when saying that they hope it's not terrorist linked, is that it's not Islamic terrorism. It's hardly simply an accident.:rolleyes:

It's being reported now that the Norwegian PM was due at the meeting where shots were fired, but didn't attend.
Yes, you are right, unless you live in Europe, especially in Northern Ireland, or France, or Spain....:rolleyes:

Link

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However, the overwhelming message emerging from a closer look at European terrorism is that regional separatist movements are by far the most active and widespread perpetrators of terrorist attacks. Of the successful terrorist attacks on European soil, 64% (160) were carried out by separatists. Whilst instances of separatist terrorism have been recorded in Austria, France and Italy, it is the Basque separatist movement ETA in Spain, and splinter factions of dissident republican organisations in Northern Ireland, that account for the vast majority of these incidents.

Indeed, it was the recent political rapprochement between ETA and the Spanish government, and the corresponding 50% decline in terrorist attacks in Spain, which has led to a 22% decline in overall terrorist incidents between 2009-2010. Meanwhile, as tragically illustrated earlier this year by the death of PC Ronan Kerr, Northern Irish terrorism has begun to increase once more.

This compares to 45 incidents of left-wing or anarchist terrorism (18% of the total), and a statistically minute 1% of successful attacks relating to jihadist groups (three in total). Al Qaeda and their ideological peers may grab the headlines, but they barely register in terms of successful attacks in Europe.

Beyond attacks, arrests and criminal charges levelled during counter-terror operations also paint a useful picture for understanding European terrorism. Here, once again, the majority of individuals held for terrorist offences were separatists: arrested in France (123), Spain (104) and the Republic of Ireland (57). Compared to this, only 179 individuals were arrested for Islamic terrorist offences, constituting 29% of all counter-terror arrests
Anyway, here's hoping they catch the culprits....


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