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RichardCoulter 03-10-2020 14:49

VM TV service over DAB.
 
I'd never heard about this, does anybody know anything more about this or did they use the service?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...s.broadcasting

1701-e 03-10-2020 16:19

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Read it in the guardian back in 2007,��

BenMcr 03-10-2020 16:19

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
It was this

https://www.radio-now.co.uk/virgin_l..._DAB_phone.htm

RichardCoulter 03-10-2020 17:11

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36052507)

It looks like it was ahead of it's time. It only had 10,000 customers, but look how many people now use their smartphones for TV content these days!

cheekyangus 03-10-2020 17:44

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
The Lobster phone. Or am I getting mixed up?

It looked like a dictaphone anyway.

RichardCoulter 03-10-2020 17:46

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36052525)
The Lobster phone. Or am I getting mixed up?

It looked like a dictaphone anyway.

Yes, it was the Lobster.

cheekyangus 03-10-2020 17:46

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Here it is https://www.trustedreviews.com/revie...v-mobile-phone

heero_yuy 03-10-2020 17:46

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36052525)
The Lobster phone. Or am I getting mixed up?

Sounds a bit fishy to me. :D

Mad Max 03-10-2020 20:33

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
I never use my dictaphone, I always just use my finger.

Darwish 03-10-2020 23:38

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Ah yes, the Lobster, happy days, I had one of those! Pamela Anderson in the advert.

It had E4 (then a subscription channel) and I could watch Big Brother to and from work on the overground sections of the London Underground. Even when the TV service ended it continued as a great portable DAB radio, impervious to the interference suffered by analogue radio on my journey and with a battery life several times that of early dedicated DAB portables.

I suspect video bandwidth was limited and compression isn’t what it is today, but on the small screen that wasn’t really exposed.

A technological cul-de-sac but a fun one. Pamela still going strong.

nodrogd 04-10-2020 12:44

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
It simply never took off, & was taking too much bandwidth from the DAB mux it was using, forcing stations onto Mono operation.

BT decided to drop the system as only one handset was available & the more efficeint DVB-H standard had been approved by the European Commision for use on 3G devices.

https://www.commsbusiness.co.uk/feat...-closes-movio/

RichardCoulter 04-10-2020 13:17

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 36052602)
It simply never took off, & was taking too much bandwidth from the DAB mux it was using, forcing stations onto Mono operation.

BT decided to drop the system as only one handset was available & the more efficeint DVB-H standard had been approved by the European Commision for use on 3G devices.

https://www.commsbusiness.co.uk/feat...-closes-movio/

I believe that the TV stations were transmitted as data streams. Could they use this system for today's DTT to make more efficient use of the diminishing DTT spectrum?

BenMcr 04-10-2020 13:31

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
That's what is happening today. DVB TV is data streams.

The difference is how that data is transmitted compared to over IP streams used for mobile and fixed broadband.

RichardCoulter 04-10-2020 15:17

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36052606)
That's what is happening today. DVB TV is data streams.

The difference is how that data is transmitted compared to over IP streams used for mobile and fixed broadband.

Thanks- so they're already doing it then.

nodrogd 05-10-2020 17:08

Re: VM TV service over DAB.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36052609)
Thanks- so they're already doing it then.

Yes, & its getting more advanced all the time, as 5G mobile has a broadcast mode. So the broadcasters are having to give up their TV spectrum to 5G mobile that can also be used to broadcast TV (amungst other things).

https://5g.co.uk/guides/what-is-lte-broadcast/


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