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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36026245)

Whatever happened to Corona lemonade, a brand I recall from childhood, which dates me.

I remember it had a polar bear in sunglasses whose catchphrase was “it’s frothy baby”. Or similar.

That was Cresta

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36026251)

That was Cresta

Ha, ha, there you go, dementia has set in. Cresta. Well it starts with a C.

Thanks for that,

Stay tuned for future episodes of Pierre mis-remembers things.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36026246)

Was there not a penny given back if the bottle was taken back to the shop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_(soft_drink)

Or perhaps I’ve just mistakenly, conflated the Cresta polar bear, with Corona.

At least there was a Corona lemonade, I’m not totally senile.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36026246)

Was there not a penny given back if the bottle was taken back to the shop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_(soft_drink)

My recollection of Corona soft drinks was a wagon coming into the village where I lived at the time on a Tuesday (IIRC) and parked at the same place at the same time weekly. He did have multiple places over the day in the village and elsewhere (others up the road).

There was also another whose name I can't recall but was older (and most of the village used) who delivered in stone gallon jars that substituted as hot water bottles in winter.

BTW there was a drink called Iron Brew (from Stocks) which had an icon of a worker in a foundry weilding a sledgehammer. FU Barrs!

Spain have announced a new death.

Died three weeks ago.

So the announcement is not new then.

Latest from WHO.

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/deta...--3-march-2020

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...We understand that people are afraid and uncertain. Fear is a natural human response to any threat, especially when it’s a threat we don’t completely understand.

But as we get more data, we are understanding this virus, and the disease it causes, more and more.

This virus is not SARS, it’s not MERS, and it’s not influenza. It is a unique virus with unique characteristics.

Both COVID-19 and influenza cause respiratory disease and spread the same way, via small droplets of fluid from the nose and mouth of someone who is sick.

However, there are some important differences between COVID-19 and influenza.

First, COVID-19 does not transmit as efficiently as influenza, from the data we have so far.

With influenza, people who are infected but not yet sick are major drivers of transmission, which does not appear to be the case for COVID-19.

Evidence from China is that only 1% of reported cases do not have symptoms, and most of those cases develop symptoms within 2 days.

Some countries are looking for cases of COVID-19 using surveillance systems for influenza and other respiratory diseases.

Countries such as China, Ghana, Singapore and elsewhere have found very few cases of COVID-19 among such samples – or no cases at all.

The only way to be sure is by looking for COVID-19 antibodies in large numbers of people, and several countries are now doing those studies. This will give us further insight into the extent of infection in populations over time.

WHO has developed protocols on how these studies should be done, and we encourage all countries to do these studies and share their data.

The second major difference is that COVID-19 causes more severe disease than seasonal influenza.

While many people globally have built up immunity to seasonal flu strains, COVID-19 is a new virus to which no one has immunity. That means more people are susceptible to infection, and some will suffer severe disease.

Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died. By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.

Third, we have vaccines and therapeutics for seasonal flu, but at the moment there is no vaccine and no specific treatment for COVID-19. However, clinical trials of therapeutics are now being done, and more than 20 vaccines are in development.

And fourth, we don’t even talk about containment for seasonal flu – it’s just not possible. But it is possible for COVID-19. We don’t do contact tracing for seasonal flu – but countries should do it for COVID-19, because it will prevent infections and save lives. Containment is possible.

To summarize, COVID-19 spreads less efficiently than flu, transmission does not appear to be driven by people who are not sick, it causes more severe illness than flu, there are not yet any vaccines or therapeutics, and it can be contained – which is why we must do everything we can to contain it. That’s why WHO recommends a comprehensive approach.

These differences mean we can’t treat COVID-19 exactly the same way we treat flu...

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026260)

So the announcement is not new then.

Announcement is new, the death wasn't.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN20Q2TG

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MADRID (Reuters) - A man in the Spanish region of Valencia died from coronavirus, marking the country’s first death from the outbreak, a local health official said on Tuesday.

Tests showed the man, who died on February 13, was killed by the virus, regional health chief Ana Barcelo said at a press conference.

I read (can't find the link at the moment) that other countries are re-testing people who died of what was thought to be pneumonia, but are now finding the COVID-19 in them.

AH well, I'm still not going to panic. If I get it, I get it. If I don't, I don't. There's absolutely nothing I can do to stop either.
It is the same for everyone else. Wake up and be real. It is out there and a lot will get it, who survives or not has nothing to do with those who wash their hands but if it makes you feel good go ahead scrub them 24hrs a day.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36026220)

Good news, the owners of Corona Beer have lost £132million in sales, so there might be some deals going down at the supermarket :)
https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/27/maker...irus-12312964/

The loss in sales referred to is in China.

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AB InBev estimates the earnings hit across China after seeing around £221 million of lost sales in the first two months of 2020 alone due to coronavirus – also known as Covid-19.

Profits were dropping before then.

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AB InBev also admitted its 2019 performance was ‘below our expectations’ as net profits slumped to £88 million in the final three months from £353 million a year earlier.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026260)

So the announcement is not new then.

The announcement is new. Their death on the other hand isn’t.

What’s also new (as in was not known or in the public domain) is that it demonstrates Coronavirus was in mainland Spain around two weeks before the first confirmed cases.

Edit: just saw Hugh’s post.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36026246)

Was there not a penny given back if the bottle was taken back to the shop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona_(soft_drink)

You were done, it was 10p

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026266)

Chances are this will be a seasonal illness now so might be better to catch it early anf build up future immunisation for when you're older :shrug:

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36026272)

In a Spanish newspaper

https://www.lavanguardia.com/vida/20...-valencia.html

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Translated version

The Valencian Community has confirmed the first patient killed by coronavirus in Spain. As reported by the Department of Sanitat Universal and Public Health on Tuesday afternoon at a press conference, a man died on February 13 due to severe pneumonia of unknown origin and a retrospective investigation has revealed that he had the Covid-19. This person was 69 years old and had recently traveled to Nepal.

The Minister Ana Barceló has detailed that a second analysis has detected the presence of the coronavirus in the patient, who died at the Arnau Hospital in Vilanova de València. This second test was carried out after a change in the criteria for defining cases that the Ministry did on February 27, and urged a second analysis of deaths due to pneumonia of unknown origin. It has not transcended the patient's age or if he had other diseases.

n addition, Sanitat has confirmed that there is a new active case in the community, a woman who has been detected at the Hospital de Manises. With this case, 19 people infected by coronavirus in the Valencian Community, being one of them the deceased.

This same Tuesday, Sanitat had confirmed two other new cases, those of two women who did not travel to risk areas but had been in contact with people who have previously tested positive.The two infections, according to the consellera, have been detected for the evidence established by the protocol established by the Ministry of Health from the confirmed cases. Both have mild symptoms and remain in home isolation.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36026266)

If it’s all the same to you, I’ll stick with the medical professionals’ advice (which is a world away from panicking).

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Avoid close contact with people who are sick.
Avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth.
Stay home when you are sick.
Cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue, then throw the tissue in the trash.
Clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces using a regular household cleaning spray or wipe.

Follow CDC’s recommendations for using a facemask.
CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including COVID-19.
Facemasks should be used by people who show symptoms of COVID-19 to help prevent the spread of the disease to others. The use of facemasks is also crucial for health workers and people who are taking care of someone in close settings (at home or in a health care facility).

Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds, especially after going to the bathroom; before eating; and after blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing.

If soap and water are not readily available, use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer with at least 60% alcohol. Always wash hands with soap and water if hands are visibly dirty.

Washing your hands (properly) with soap and water or using alcohol-based hand rub kills viruses that may be on your hands, reducing the chances of catching/passing on the virus.

3.4% is concerning, it was estimated to be at 1-2%.

It being hard to pass on than flu and the prospect of passing it on whilst not having symptoms being less likely is good news though.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36026278)

Chances are this will be a seasonal illness now so might be better to catch it early anf build up future immunisation for when you're older :shrug:

Not if you suffer from Asthma or similar, such as Mrs Pierre.

Not Panicking, but concerned.

The number of coronavirus cases in the UK has jumped by 34 in a day, taking the total number of confirmed cases to 85.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...te-latest-news

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