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If they don't get as far, May will never go for a hard Brexit - ever. She just threatens as much from time to time to fill her daily bout / dose of attention seeking / robotic "appease my hardliners" phase...then the remain folks will start pulling the strings and off she goes to placate them and round her phase of "giving" goes. Quote:
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Smart man. I would make it clear to the UK that they are not going to have their cake and eat it. He seems to have done all that...he is a smart guy. Now, heels. He is a good looking guy so if he was to go head to head with me, on heels - I might just lose. I think he is even slightly taller than me...would he look good in heels? I don't know, but he is clearly a good looking guy. Quote:
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However though, once they are done bickering the EU will get the final say, and no means no when they reject. |
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And the UK leaving the bureaucratic and unwieldy EU makes perfect sense, by the way. The real danger for us is staying in, so the sooner we escape, the better. |
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I wouldn't say "out of spite" but no way does the UK get some preferential deal / some special perk to break the 4 principles on my watch if I was chief negotiator, ever. What on Earth makes you think that the UK should get friction less trade without being a member of the CU?
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Trade deal or no trade deal, we will be paying this bill. As we owe it. |
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An hour or so ago, Barnier said no to a bespoke deal: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/98...Theresa-May-UK May is going with the idea of part SM access...before Barnier can look at it, Leo put the kibosh on it: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...s-says-barnier Even from the UK side, Max Fac is a no go for the EU: http://uk.businessinsider.com/philip...esa-may-2018-5 The manufacturers association says that it is a no go: http://www.cityam.com/286524/manufac...s-proposal-non https://www.reuters.com/article/us-b...KCN1IT25I?il=0 Why and where are you coming up with all this??? Max Fac is not going to happen, there is no guarantee of any deal and if there is one to be had, it looks likely to be entirely on the EU's terms. Because by the hour they seem to be rejecting every single pie in the sky idea from May and co. So what makes you so sure? Quote:
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As for the 80 billion surplus I would honestly just be willing to take the hit if I were on the EU side - Britain will obviously suffer more in the long run and come begging back to the EU, which will then offer Britain the chance to return, on much more favorable terms to the EU. Play the long game. Quote:
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PM must deliver hard Brexit or face revolt, says Rees-Mogg
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