When will we see another speed upgrade?
 

So 350mbit has been available on VM Business since April 2017. I had it on residential from August 17.

We're now 18 months past the initial release, it seems like most areas are now on 24 DS channels and 4 US.

What next? In my experience with VM we'd be starting to hear about the next upgrade by now, but we've heard nothing on higher tiers or DOCSIS3.1 in ages.

Meanwhile BT are starting to roll out further with G.Fast and FTTP, and offering 330/50 on that...

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My guess sometime in 2019 for a free speed bump and docsis 3.1 modems being trialed.

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24 DS channels? Only 8 here, and they reckon we're fully upgraded.

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Are you on a SHUB2?

That can only lock 8 channels.

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Probably on the old SH2 or SH2ac.

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2ac as the hub 3 wifi is abominable.

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Using the SH3 here and i don't have any issues with wifi.

Granted most devices are hardwired here but there are mobiles,chromecast,amazon echo's,tablets and a couple of wifi flash drives that all use wifi and no issues.

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SHUB 3 wifi is shocking some times, I am seriously considering getting another router for my wifi needs

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I have Hub 2ac with 8 DS and 2 US.

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Right, so most areas are upgraded, but the sh2 is crap.

I wouldn't know about sh3 WiFi as I have only ever used it in modem mode, I use ubiquiti kit for WiFi.

In any case, this still implies most of the upgrade rollout is done.

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No issues here either.

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What would you want to do that 350mbit doesn't allow you to do? Speed upgrades have become a bit irrelevant (an upload increase would be nice though - but guess it doesn't grab the headlines...)

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There's no driver for a speed uplift at the moment.

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OMG !!! I actually agree with something you said for a change lol :D:D:D

The speed wars with BT etc was defo getting silly for a while and for sure it was a case of 'mine is bigger than yours' :)

Now that we have 350 from VM and some people can get 300 Via FTTP/G-Fast etc then i don't think we are going to see massive increases in download speeds on a national level for a while yet.The VM network as it stands is capable of higher speeds anyway but as you said in your post i don't think they are required yet anyway. 350.300Mbps is more than ample even for a busy household with multiple users online same time.Higher upload speeds would be handy though :)

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With just the two of us our legacy 70Mbs is quite adequate. Much faster and I'd have to upgrade the whole house network to make use, currently 10/100T. Installed when we had the original NTL 256Kbs service through the STB.

If we want an HD film I just download it during the day, only takes a few minutes, and the Media server on the PC makes it available to the smart TV as needed.

If we had a free upgrade to 100Mbs I'd be happy with that.

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If you are on 70Mbs you should have had a free upgrade to 100 over a year ago. I did without requesting it.

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It's not a Speed upgrade I want, It's a better Router with Great Wi-Fi..

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ISPs give you the basics which for me works fine.

I recommend buying your own router this will give you far better WiFi and loads more advanced options that most normal users wouldn't need.

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don't bother snoopz, there are at least two other threads whether we have had an in depth discussion about this with him already and he hasn't taken our advice.

go and buy one then because we told you which one to buy over a month ago

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Doesn't have to be an expensive one either. I never spend more than £50 on a router and its better than anything VM provide.

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I rather we get a speed boost for upload, but I guess we need to wait for DOCSIS 3.1

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Tempting to get G.Fast when it seems like the minimum I'd get on upload would be 41.

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Why do people want a higher upload, is it for Torrents or things like uploading photos as the only benefit a really high upload for me personally would be uploading photos to the cloud?

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Streaming uploading videos voice and video calls and being only 25 meters from the cabinet also gets me 350 down.

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Can't you do that on what you already have?

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Streaming at 1080 60 8Mbps with Discord and Skype open dose cause drops in call quality fairly often so 40-50 up would help.

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When games are around 120GB to download - even my 388Mb is slow.

Downloads, especially with media, are getting bigger and bigger.

4K movies, 4K Games etc

Many places around the world have 1Gb and some places even more than that.

0.38Gb is getting old, fast.

The ability to download tens of GBs quick will always be better than waiting
many minutes or more.

If we took your view then advancements would never be made and next thing you know file sizes have swollen but speeds haven't kept up.

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Have you ever tried to send your kid's grandparent a 1080p video of her birthday? I have and it took the best part of a full day to send. I could have downloaded that file in minutes.

We don't live in a take take take world with the internet anymore. We live in a share, take, share, take one

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Plus it is saturation. Most of what we do is media based. As soon as you upload photos and videos you taken it saturates your connection and therefore download speeds gets affected.

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Because I backup everything to cloud, including video, the faster that works, the better. :)

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I wonder at what point they'll differentiate between Coax cable areas and Project Lightning FTTP areas and bin all the RFoG converters?

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Yeah, i punt a fair amount of data up to Azure each night (PC backups) so having upload is more priority for me. The download is generally fast enough for everything except for games, and half the time the speeds you get from PSN/XBL are limited by their networks, not VM's.

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For downloads from steam, VM are definitely the limiting factor.

I'd definitely love more upload though. It's awful for backups and remote streaming right now.

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On my PS4 i get around 170mbit wired on a 200mbit VM connection and 35mbit wireless from 12foot away, based on the PS4s short network speed test.

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Steam and newsgroups give me 385mbit or so over cable, and steam on my laptop does similar over wireless, but then I'm only using the hub 3.0 in modem mode and have ubiquiti access points for WiFi.

It's entirely possible to use more speed, even on wireless.

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In Coventry, where Vodaphone have started installing their FTTP network there is a driver for Virgin and others to increase headline speeds. Vodaphone will be offering 1Gb up and down for £50 a month to residential customers. Although VM have already installed FTTP across swathes of south Coventry, it is pegged back to 350Mb. Surely VM will have to do something about this.

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Ya but i cant see it any time soon. I am expecting 500 or 600mbits at the end of next year.

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There is no market pressure for faster speeds. When there is, mon General's expectation will be fulfilled.

For upstream, they have to ensure really clean channels, and that's the limiting factor at the moment, imo.

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Buuuut, will that condition/limitation still apply. I havent read up on the difference between docsis 3 and 3.1 but i can remember saying channels wont exist as we currently know it. I am assuming the basics still apply with regards to frequencies and noise etc.

I am expecting massive jumps in tiers though once they start rolling 3.1 out which should be next year.

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Have a read, mon General:

https://volpefirm.com/docsis-3-1-plant/

Let us know what you think about channels.

But, as I said before, there is no competitive pressure in the UK to go to DOCSIS 3.1.

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That may be so but it is the right thing to do to move technology forward

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Technology moving forward doesn't mean the public have to get it until the commercial pressures force VM to do it. They've got the technology - it's moved forward, mon General.