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Early days I know but it is looking like a long hard season awaits Fulham.:erm:

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l have to agree as they have more holes in their defence then l have in my 10 year old socks.

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Don Revie and Shanks would be pulling their hair out with this defending but a good watch for us neutrals.:cool:

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Indeed very poor defending and not what l expect.:td:

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That was some finish but the Liverpool defence is all over the place. I blame the new shirt design. The back of the collar looks like the front so they don’t know if they are coming or going.:D

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The omens on todays defending don't look good going forward.

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been a very good game at Anfield

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Well the only bonus Dave was 3 points.:D

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As expected, Newcastle United with legal assistance from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia have launched legal proceedings against the English Premier League.

Messy.

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You've no chance of signing him, dream on !

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Its all kicking off at Goodison park with the West Brom player and the manager both given red cards.:eeek:

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Well that was quite alarming by the Man United defence.:D

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They all look half asleep, just remind me how many Liverpools defence conceded last week.:rolleyes:

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It was one short of 4.;)

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And that 4 was against a Leeds defence that conceded 3 to Fulham.;)

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It might take 360 minutes for United to score 4 given their first 60 minutes showing here.:p:

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That is never a penalty in a million years..:shocked:

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Very poor from the officials but the score is about right tbh.

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l don't disagree with you on the score as personally l expected better from United.

Of course United seem to be playing their annual games in the transfer market it seems.

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Can we be surprised?.

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Ouch . . and Luton coming up on Tuesday ;)

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Now now Carth that was uncalled for.:D

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Kane & Son are the first players to assist (Kane) and score (Son) 4 goals, Son has 2 goals disallowed thanks to VAR.

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VAR doing its job.

Makes a change to see the retard doing some work assisting other players rather than just goal hanging. I'm surprised he didn't claim all of the goals on his daughters life. :D

Southampton need to drop the high defensive line. It isn't working. :mad:

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Anyone tell me what is Carabou.com? I see they are shown live games tomorrow and wondering who/what they are? And how do you get to see the games?

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When l type that address in it just comes out with a domain name for sale.

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Yeah interesting and puzzling. Maybe on the day and time of kick off the game will be shown?

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I think it probably means Carabao, since they sponsor the League Cup :)

I dont think it means they are showing any matches, just that there are a lot of Carabao Cup matches tomorrow.

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I'm going by what I've seen on the internet when I searched for live games on TV and tomorrow it shows a couple of games live and it says Carabao cup.com as the channel showing it.

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Whatever you are looking at is wrong, some will be on carabaocup.live.

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Yes I understand now. At £10 I'll give that a miss!

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That is the going rate for watching your clubs match or any football match live online now.

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Too pricey, would never pay it no matter what the match or teams are.

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No l would not either but my two Portsmouth mad brothers do.

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Yeah guess some will but I do wonder exactly how many do. I imagine not that many so wonder how they make it worthwhile?

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From what my brothers tell me a few thousand pompey fans pay a tenner to watch each match online.

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Wow that many! Thought it would of been in the lower hundreds. Some football fans will pay whatever it costs to see their team. Never been that way myself and at present I wouldn`t pay anything extra above my sky and bt subs to watch my team ( Middlesbrough)

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You have to understand that the lower league sides don't get any financial income currently so they will stream their matches live so that will bring in some financial income given they are not getting their normal matchday financial incomes.

Portsmouth average crowd for each home game with supporters present would be around 15,000.

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Yeah wasn't getting at the club's, can't blame them for using everyway possible to increase income,was just saying some fans seem to have more money than sense. I know £10 is still cheaper than paying at the turnstile but as I said I wouldn't pay it. My club had around 2,000 fans in the ground last Saturday and I think they're mad but so long as they enjoyed themselves and stayed safe then good luck to them.

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Luis Suarez and Diego Costa in the same forward line. :shocked:

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And managed by someone who is just as bad as they are.;)

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Now l wonder who will be the first Premier League manager to be given a P45 this season?.;)

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You wouldn`t be thinking of Frank at Chelsea by any chances?

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l would say he is at the head of the betting just in front of Ole..:D

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Yes agree with you there

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The Plan.

1.Cap Premiership wages at £80k a year.
2. Give the money saved to all lower tiers of football.
3. Foreign players/managers leave, home grown talent flourishes, the national game improves, and we win the next World Cup.
Everyone's a winner :) (apart from Sky, Ferrari cars, the undeserving rich, but sod them ...)

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A good idea but reality says its not going to happen.

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l hope the lower tiers of football are helped out as after all they are the lifeblood of the pyramid of football.

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Foreign players enrich our game and there is plenty of home grown talent out there if you look.

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Why not? Make it so. Ruffle a feathers and upset a few Premiership team but so what?

Just dream Den, a Liverpool team full of scouse players. ;) Prem. teams and cities might get some identity back instead of being corporate foreign owner toys at the mercy of TV deals.

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This is a football thread Mr K and not Mr K's political get up on your soapbox thread.;)

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Because you are confusing fantasy with reality as in other words it will not happen.

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No it's changed now Den :)

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Whilst l agree with your point of there being some poor foreign owners in our game there are also some poor English owners in our game as well.

No names mentioned but l am sure you know who they are.

l am happy with Jurgens progress as it is Mr K.;)

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I agree that players wages should be capped and the richer Premier League clubs helping out the lower league clubs.However the only way you could cap players wages successfully is for FIFA to make it compulsory to every club in the world otherwise all the great foreign players we now have in our leagues will go to the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona. I`m not convinced that no foreign players would enable our British players to flourish. If a player is good enough he will be succesful.

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And are FIFA that den of corruption going to make it compulsory for every club in the world to cap players wages?.

On foreign players some delude themselves that if we stop them coming here we are suddenly have this great panacea of riches coming through.

If they are good enough they will always come through.

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Very unlikely FIFA would put a cap on players salary but as I said it would be the only way to do it.

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VAR IS A POXY JOKE.

The ball hit the player behind Dier both are in the air the ball hits Diers arm and the ref gives a penalty.

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Why didn't they protest this a year ago when I said it was fairly silly. It was obvious it's silly but only when seen live do you get a whinge out of anyone. FIFA told the world this was coming and we've sat back and done nothing about it.

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Its seems the only one happy today was a certain Mike Ashley.

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Well how about that....:D:D

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Surely you meant Pep.😂

Surprised how easily Wolves rolled over, something not right behind the scenes there.:confused:

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After today l have reduced his odds because of a flood of money from the red side of Manchester.:p:

l cannot believe Wolves performance tonight personally.:shocked:

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Fulham doing nothing to change my mind, 2-0 down at home to Villa after 15 minutes is rock bottom.:(

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Man Utd score a very early penalty and then concede within a minute.:D

And then concede another within 2 minutes.:shocked:

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WOW Man U V Spurs

Spurs concede a penalty within a minute.
Ndombele equalises in 4th
Son scores in 7th

only 12 mins in

Kane 30th
Son 37th :D

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Man United falling apart here with a player sent off as well...

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Disgraceful by lamela who should have been sent off also. :td:

Hopefully a retrospective 3 match ban for the cheat. :mad:

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Yeah l certainly agree with you there.

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Spurs now 5 1 up, let the rout begin

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It has already begun.:D:D

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I would be embarrassed to support any team with a player like Lamela in it, always was an annoying little shit.:mad:

However it was a forward sent off, not a defender. Just all round pathetic defending. The thing that puzzles me is that this exact same defence had the 2nd or 3rd best defensive record last season. They look as though they have just met before the kick off?:confused:

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Ole for the sack on Monday?

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Jim would be the person to ask.

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He's been overdue the sack for ages. Unless Man United are now content on just being a top six team. All he done was take the shackles off Mourinho had applied with his style of play. He's no leader and he's certainly not steering any ship.

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And we concede 4 in the first half.:mad::mad:

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If you check back I was never in the ‘give Ole the job’ camp. However I have always maintained that until was get rid of the toxic owners nothing will change very much.:(

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Villa 4 Liverpool 1 at half time,klop for the sack?

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Agree with you 100%

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l certainly know you had considerable doubts about Ole as United manager.

As l say one can change the manager willy nilly but that is just rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic as the problem is as you have succinctly pointed out the owners.

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:p::p:

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WTF Liverpool 7 (seven) - 2 down to Aston Villa

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:shocked::shocked::shocked::mad::mad::mad:

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You forgot the brackets, it’s Villa 7 (SEVEN) v 2 Liverpool.

And to think that if the VAR cameras had been working properly at Sheffield United, Villa would be in the championship now.;)

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City concede 5 , United concede 6 and Liverpool concede 7.

What is happening here?.

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And I thought Leicester losing 3-0 at home to West Ham was a shock result.

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Teams are trying to be first on MOTD running order?

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OK so at the risk of being controversial.

Please stop this knee stuff.

It's becoming meaningless.

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l wonder who is next.;)

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I thought the same ages ago, we stopped clapping for the nhs after a suitable period.

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:clap:


It's beyond boring now, and becoming offensive, but being a single, white, straight male I'm probably being offensive

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I agree,time to stop it. Also, shouldn't we really be saying ALL LIVES MATTER?

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Sneaky rumour that the Premier League have backed down from the legal action launched by Newcastle United and KSA will now complete their takeover.

Find it fairly had to believe they drag it out from March and then fall over at the first sign of legal implications :rolleyes:

Bruceball continues.

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Premier League giants propose shrinking top flight in major shake-up.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/prem...?ocid=msedgntp

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WOW they really didn't like getting spanked last weekend did they :rolleyes:

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Not really sure what this would achieve to be honest. The so called big clubs always winge about to many games then as soon as the chance arrives they organise or take part in friendly games! We all know why they play these friendly games of course,money.

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Sadly money talks in football.

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So true,so true. What the big clubs don't seem to realise is this gravey train will one day be detailed and then they'll need all the other clubs again.

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Here is a much bigger full article here.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...glish-football

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I hope it fails. Why should the richer clubs have more say than the other clubs? When the Premier League kicks off at the start of the season every club starts off as equal and so it should be in every other matter. The proposal tries to say the big clubs are concerned for the smaller clubs in the lower leagues. Well if that's the case put their hands in their pockets and support them unconditionally. They think nothing of spending sixty,seventy odd millions on players and their wages so why not spend some of that on supporting lower League clubs?

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l totally agree with your sentiments.

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They just want to play less games for the same absurd levels of money. Makes financial sense or...

you can choose to follow and support real local football that's not on TV. Spectators are allowed at a lot of non league now. Let's get back to basics :)

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Are we becoming Formula One now? No thanks. I'd rather not have a group of teams making decisions that ruin the rest.

Trying not to forget that both Liverpool and Spurs both thought they should and could have their say on Newcastles takeover. Find it odd Manchester City and Manchester United both declined to stick their nose in. Its almost as if one had ties to the Arab state and the other was rolling in Arab sponsorship money :rolleyes:

Cementing your place in the top 6 for as long as the rules persist whilst getting to veto any team that comes under potential takeovers from richer owners. Then passing that off with some token payments to the lower leagues. Slimey. We can already see straight through it.

How dare anyone else be rich.

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The top 6 clubs are almost becoming a closed shop. What next,any club that dates to take points from them get fined? Compulsory transfer of any player they fancy? I think this proposal should be given the red card.

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It's the fear of it becoming the top 8, the top 10 and then a fully competitive league. How dare Leicester City take away Champions League spots from far richer teams.

The polls are showing exactly as you'd expect, this has gone down like a lead balloon.

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I'm not surprised it's going down like a lead balloon. Clubs should have ambition and the way Leicester are mussleing in on the big six amuses and pleases me no end.

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Greg Clarke throws the top six under the bus.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...-league-threat

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The 20 supporter trusts of the current 20 Premier League teams oppose Project Big Picture.

Couldn't get much worse could it? Manchester United supporters Trust are the latest to voice their displeasure. As if Two American owners thought they'd get the backing of Man United fans :rolleyes:

They've made a monumental mess of this. As above its a massive power grab attempt with the disguise of helping lower league clubs. If we're that hell bent on helping, why does anything need to change? Just offer up the money right now. Didn't think so.

Has anyone checked if Everton have the correct permit to be top of the league?