Originally Posted by notophorm (Post 34608173)

OH and I did seek legal advice through my Union membership which gives me free 30 minutes with a solicitor. I was told much the same as has been stated before by other members of this forum.

Originally Posted by Peter N (Post 34608188)

Big credit for that - getting free advice from the Union solicitor was a very nice move.

Originally Posted by Florence (Post 34608192)

Is it time a group of people start up a vouluntary help group bit like one that deals with helping small website owners fight larger companies using copyrighted content. Sure if one was started then we could try to get help from the EU just as other groups looking after the evironment, human rights etc.

Is it time to get more organised.

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34608199)

I've given this a lot of thought, with help from friends and solicitors... Don't want to say too much else at this stage... But it is going to happen if Phorm is ever switched on again.

And BT/Phorm are in for a very unwelcome suprise too.

:)

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34608199)

I've given this a lot of thought, with help from friends and solicitors... Don't want to say too much else at this stage... But it is going to happen if Phorm is ever switched on again.

And BT/Phorm are in for a very unwelcome suprise too.

:)

Originally Posted by Dephormation (Post 34608199)

I've given this a lot of thought, with help from friends and solicitors... Don't want to say too much else at this stage... But it is going to happen if Phorm is ever switched on again.

And BT/Phorm are in for a very unwelcome suprise too.

:)

Originally Posted by Peter N (Post 34608203)

Regulars will know that I am very wary of us being seen as "organised".

I think that one of the strongest things working in our favour is that we are simply customers of the main ISPs who object to a new proposal that will affect our privacy. If we become a single voice then we lose that advantage and it just becomes a fight between two large groups and people may not identify with us in the same way.

My experience is that once a movement becomes "organised" it becomes seen as political and the accusations start to fly about the "real reasons" for any protests. We'd end up spending any air-time justifying our existence and most likely alienate the whole of Middle England who still smell commies at every turn.

I would have thought that these forums should suffice especially this one as it has the PM facility. It is also wide open to scrutiny and transparency is one of our key issues.

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Consider my interest as thoroughly peaked...

Originally Posted by Peter N (Post 34608188)

Big credit for that - getting free advice from the Union solicitor was a very nice move.

Originally Posted by Rob M (Post 34608152)

I certainly think they're relevant if they can be shown to be directly linked to the discussion at hand.

However (comma) if you want to discuss the intricacies of learning how to use and interpret traceroute, or if you want some help understanding how and why it works, then we have a wonderful (and quite friendly, if sometimes a little mad) 'Networking' section of Cable Forum which is just perfect for that sort of discussion.

You might even find that some of the techies who hang out there haven't been following this thread, but are able to give you some great advice on the subject of traceroutes ;)

Originally Posted by gnilddif (Post 34608212)

Fair enough - thanks for the link Rob.
gnilddif

Originally Posted by Florence (Post 34608209)

I know what you are saying and I wouldn't normally say get more organised but if Phorm does start to be rolled out vis all larger ISPs then small website developers, those with charity websites do need something. I would have said the ICO, ripa etc would do the job but sadly they seem to be lacking in vision, responsibility or understanding that or blindly led by the nose through all the BS.. MPO

Originally Posted by Florence (Post 34608247)

Have to agree with you Peter in the mean time keep plugging on slipping in the odd reminder and a mention of the marriage between British Telecom and Webwise/phorm seemed funny having a poster unregistered posting on ISPreview from France and knows about Phorm so we are getting the message far and wide...