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RichardCoulter 11-11-2020 17:46

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by admars (Post 36057582)
lol, i doubt that's true, but if it were I don't think i've had enough problems since I've been with them to be on the naughty list :)

I think It's a load of rubbish too. Besides, with the enourmous amounts of people complaining about this, it couldn't possibly be the case.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36057576)
What do you expect OFCOM to do?

Help me like they said they would. They are also going to log the apalling CS of Virgin Media that's affecting customers, especially the most vulnerable.

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Originally Posted by MrP (Post 36057583)
Human nature I guess. I didn't post any favourable feedback on social media - well apart from on here and DS 😉 - after calling VM a few weeks ago to renew my contract.

This isn't a dig at you, but customers who don't receive the service they expect or demand are more likely vent their frustrations elsewhere - again human nature.

And as others have mentioned, please don't dismiss their community forum. From what I've seen they do help where they can - which includes arranging engineer visits.

Thanks, but Ofcom have said that I should now leave it with them. Also, I don't expect to be given the runaround and have to try numerous avenues just to receive a response.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36057584)
Hearing?

Physically holding the phone for so long.

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36057587)
I'm sure when a network fault hits them they will get swamped with calls - but an isolated tv box fault on a normal day should give an fast reply.

The member of staff I spoke to today was still working from home - so things are still not back to normal.


Having lots of problems will not put you on the naughty step - but continual slagging them off in various forums and taking legal action might.

Are you suggesting that VM treat people less favourably because they either alert others to their incompetence or excercise their rights under the law? Do you have any evidence for this suggestion as i'd be very interested to see it.

I have only threatened them with legal action once (though an out of court settlement was reached) after the issues I suffered when they left confidential customer information for all to see on the internet:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51760510

1andrew1 11-11-2020 17:46

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36057604)
Physically holding the phone for so long.

I'm sure you've done this, but the obvious suggestions include putting your phone on speaker mode hands free or dialling from a PC/laptop.

RichardCoulter 11-11-2020 17:57

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36057588)
Might it be productive to contact a consumer programme such as R4's "you and yours"? They often get action when other methods fail.

youandyours@bbc.co.uk

Good idea heero, i'll bear that in mind after Ofcom get back to me :)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057589)
I don't think it would work as people can just dial from a different number.

Ultimately, if a company doesn't want to supply a service to a customer then generally it doesn't have to. The exception being those with a universal service obligation like water companies.

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Good point. Plus newspapers have similar columns too.

...or if it's because the customer is being denied service because they belong to one of the protected groups a la the gay cake incident.

I've also been sent this link by someone that others may find useful too:

https://customerserviceaction.com/co...TlRcXGyJYOq0MI

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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36057591)
TBH is SKY ever blocked my number it'd be bye bye SKY, but then again i don't give them reason too i call around once every 18 months to renew contract etc.

Richard maybe try the cancellations department? Imo experience companies soon answer if they think you're leaving.

I thought of that, but i'm still in contract. Also, the complaints about not being able to get through also include cancellations/retentions!!!

If nothing is done by the end of this week it will have been a month without services, so I think I could leave due to their breach of contract, but will have to check with our legal people first.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36057609)
I'm sure you've done this, but the obvious suggestions include putting your phone on speaker mode hands free or dialling from a PC/laptop.

My phone stopped working and has gone in for repair, unfortunately the cheapo phone i've borrowed doesn't have this facility (and I use a tablet). Do you know if you can make calls from a tablet?

Legendkiller2k 11-11-2020 18:29

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36057610)
Good idea heero, i'll bear that in mind after Ofcom get back to me :)

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...or if it's because the customer is being denied service because they belong to one of the protected groups a la the gay cake incident.

I've also been sent this link by someone that others may find useful too:

https://customerserviceaction.com/co...TlRcXGyJYOq0MI

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I thought of that, but i'm still in contract. Also, the complaints about not being able to get through also include cancellations/retentions!!!

If nothing is done by the end of this week it will have been a month without services, so I think I could leave due to their breach of contract, but will have to check with our legal people first.

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My phone stopped working and has gone in for repair, unfortunately the cheapo phone i've borrowed doesn't have this facility (and I use a tablet). Do you know if you can make calls from a tablet?

Doesn't matter if they are nor providing you the agreed service the contract is null and void you can walk away penalty free.

RobboEdin 11-11-2020 18:59

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
When did Ofcom start dealing with individual’s problems?

From Ofcom website:

“ We don’t handle:

individual disputes between you and your home phone, broadband or mobile provider - they will be dealt with via an ADR scheme;”

RichardCoulter 11-11-2020 19:23

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36057623)
Doesn't matter if they are nor providing you the agreed service the contract is null and void you can walk away penalty free.

That's what I think too.

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36057628)
When did Ofcom start dealing with individual’s problems?

From Ofcom website:

“ We don’t handle:

individual disputes between you and your home phone, broadband or mobile provider - they will be dealt with via an ADR scheme;”

There are reasons which I don't wish to go into, I suspect that i'm the exception rather than the rule.

Ofcom would like anybody affected by the way that Virgin Media are treating customers to complete this form:

https://ofcomforms.secure.force.com/...mCCTMonitoring

Any particularly incidents of bad behaviour and matters of compliance are especially welcome.

The more evidence they have, the better. Virgin Media aren't in their good books after being the only company to refuse to sign a good practice agreement. In an unprecedented move, Ofcom went onto live TV and advised unhappy customers to switch suppliers..

Virgin Media is currently at the top of the list for being the most complained about Pay TV supplier and It's easy to see why.

oscarandjo 11-11-2020 19:47

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
I've had a VM customer retentions employee mis-sell me a package, with half the stated speeds, for a higher cost, with a SIM card I didn't even need. It took me months to get this fixed, they did not respond to my 5 letters, and in the end I had to raise the complaint with CISAS. On the very last day of CISAS's deadline, they finally responded to the CISAS complaint and resolved everything.

Now just 54 days later Virgin have reneged on their own resolution, upped my price, and cut my broadband speeds.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...8#post36037028

I'm reaching the end of my tether with these incompetent tw*ts.

Mad Max 11-11-2020 20:22

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
I'm being totally honest here, I've never had a problem with the CS of Virgin Media, I've always found them to be very helpful anytime that I have called them, it certainly helps when you are polite.

1701-e 11-11-2020 20:40

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36057638)
I'm being totally honest here, I've never had a problem with the CS of Virgin Media, I've always found them to be very helpful anytime that I have called them, it certainly helps when you are polite.

Same here.

Hugh 11-11-2020 20:48

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
I’ve had differing experiences, but mostly good - perseverance, patience, and politeness (no matter how frustrated you feel), usually pays off.

GrimUpNorth 11-11-2020 21:06

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36057478)
Tell me where legal action by me against anybody has been mentioned.

Let's be fair Richard, you've got form for this - when it comes to threatening to get your high powered legal team on the case you could put Donald to shame :rolleyes:.

Paul 11-11-2020 22:09

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36057604)
Physically holding the phone for so long.

Seriously ??

Use speaker mode, or get a headset ... sheesh.

oscarandjo 11-11-2020 22:30

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36057638)
I'm being totally honest here, I've never had a problem with the CS of Virgin Media, I've always found them to be very helpful anytime that I have called them, it certainly helps when you are polite.

I'm very polite with customer service people, I recognise they're just doing their job and whatever complaint I have isn't their fault.

I've been a customer for years and years, and had the same experience as you, the support has always sorted out any complaint I had and I've always had a technician within a few days.

No complaints, until COVID happened, then Virgin's customer service went off a cliff. Since then they've used it as an excuse to provide woeful customer service.

RichardCoulter 11-11-2020 22:54

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36057649)
Let's be fair Richard, you've got form for this - when it comes to threatening to get your high powered legal team on the case you could put Donald to shame :rolleyes:.

Explain where this has been mentioned in this particular case?

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36057660)
Seriously ??

Use speaker mode, or get a headset ... sheesh.

It's already been explained why I cannot do this.

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Originally Posted by oscarandjo (Post 36057672)
I'm very polite with customer service people, I recognise they're just doing their job and whatever complaint I have isn't their fault.

I've been a customer for years and years, and had the same experience as you, the support has always sorted out any complaint I had and I've always had a technician within a few days.

No complaints, until COVID happened, then Virgin's customer service went off a cliff. Since then they've used it as an excuse to provide woeful customer service.

Oh it's been going downhill for longer than Covid (which a lot are now using as an excuse). I had estimated this to be for the last 18 months or so, until another forum member reminded me of this report that Chris wrote for Cableforum in 2017:

'Customer Service has been a problem for a while, this article is from April 2017 but things have become much worse since then (even before Covid):
https://www.cableforum.uk/article/57...t-virgin-media

The horror stories all over Twitter, Facebook and VM's own forum show that problems relating to customer service are very widespread. Hopefully if/when the merger with O2 goes ahead it will be given a radical shake up, It's hard to see how it could get any worse.'

1andrew1 11-11-2020 22:54

Re: Petition to highlight/embarrass Virgin Media into improving the way that they tre
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36057610)
Do you know if you can make calls from a tablet?

Just install Skype. (Other VOIP services are available)


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