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Horizon 02-05-2019 14:55
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35993095)
In my opinion its still a pipe dream with the exception of Disney I don't see many brave enough to go it alone outside the USA.

I still see the others licensing content to third parties.
If Hollywood never sold its stuff outside America before, then I'd agree, but Hollywood's films and tv span the globe and that's before further media consolidation probably with more telecoms and tech companies.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35993100)
I do think also that as material becomes about 5 years old on any streamer, many programmes will be made available elsewhere, either exclusively or on a non-exclusive basis.[

If they do, I would imagine that they will give the content rights to the SVOD services rather than the pay-tv channels.
Certainly Comcast and AT&T have publicly said they will still licence content, especially older content to third parties, but lets see how long that model can continue for in the streaming world. Not long, me thinks.

muppetman11 02-05-2019 15:13
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Of the new entrants Comcast will also probably have the largest audience early on for its streaming service , they announced the service will be available ad supported for all it's 50 million + subscribers both here and in the US.

The ad supported service will also be available on other US pay TV platforms as well as a chargeable version for people without pay TV.

Horizon 02-05-2019 17:38
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For broadband yes, but AT&T and Verizon have over 150m+ subscribers a piece for their mobile services and unlike Verizon, AT&T has the Warner content to stream to those mobile customers. So, in theory, AT&T should hit the ground running with their streamer too.

muppetman11 02-05-2019 19:08
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Broadband ?

I'm referring to the 50 million + TV subscribers who'll have access included for free from the ad supported Streaming service as far as I'm aware the others have only mentioned pay OTT services.

I'm sure Comcast mentioned making $5-6 per subscriber from advertising which seems pretty good and gives them a huge audience from day one with the potential for an even higher audience if the as supported app becomes available to competing pay TV services.

oliver1948uk 09-05-2019 14:04
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We'll, here is a reason NOT to throw out the old.
At last a free day to enjoy my retirement. Poor weather so a chance to binge watch on Netflix the early series of Line of Duty. Then around 10.30am the internet goes down . . . and VM TV too. Estimated fix time according to My Virgin Media 6.30pm.
All is not lost for my relaxing day as I have many programmes recorded on my V6 waiting to be watched. Currently enjoying the excellent ITV series Victoria.
I know it is extremely rare the internet plays up . . . but it has sure happened today!

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My lad has just come back from work looking forward to watching Game of Thrones on Now TV upstairs . . . but still no internet.
He is now having to watch recorded Ghosts on my TV.
Come back internet!

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2pm. It's working again!

OLD BOY 19-05-2019 19:28
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More trouble ahead for the conventional TV channels. The lack of US content available to them as studios divert their attention to OTT services means that linear TV channels will have to invest in more content of their own or suffer a lack of 'must see' programming.

https://tbivision.com/2019/05/17/tbi...global-buyers/

Rampant consolidation across the US market and forthcoming launches of studio-backed SVODs such as Disney+ and the WarnerMedia streamer point to a potential “scarcity” of content as studios are expected to hold back key shows for their own services.

muppetman11 19-05-2019 21:10
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The best streaming service for content in my opinion is YouTube and it's free if you don't mind short ads.

jfman 19-05-2019 21:17
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35995407)
More trouble ahead for the conventional TV channels. The lack of US content available to them as studios divert their attention to OTT services means that linear TV channels will have to invest in more content of their own or suffer a lack of 'must see' programming.

https://tbivision.com/2019/05/17/tbi...global-buyers/

Rampant consolidation across the US market and forthcoming launches of studio-backed SVODs such as Disney+ and the WarnerMedia streamer point to a potential “scarcity” of content as studios are expected to hold back key shows for their own services.
There’s no quality on linear TV anyway according to your analysis. So nothing to lose from this in practice.

denphone 20-05-2019 05:35
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35995426)
There’s no quality on linear TV anyway according to your analysis. So nothing to lose from this in practice.
Things can often be like that in the hypothetical fantasy world of OB but real reality tends to come sooner rather then later l always find.;)

OLD BOY 20-05-2019 08:34
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35995426)
There’s no quality on linear TV anyway according to your analysis. So nothing to lose from this in practice.
Not true. What about Bodyguard, Victoria, Line of Duty and so on?

My complaint has not been that there are no quality programmes on scheduled TV, just that the number of such programmes are diminishing. This is particularly noticeable on the pay tv channels. Only BBC and ITV seem to be putting themselves out with their own quality dramas at present. Sky does the occasional one such as Strikeback, but there are very few, if any, compelling Sky productions on there these days.

A couple or so years ago, I was recording programmes from quite a range of channels - even minor ones such as 5USA. This no longer happens because I simply can't find stuff to watch any more..

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35995434)
Things can often be like that in the hypothetical fantasy world of OB but real reality tends to come sooner rather then later l always find.;)
I live in the real world, Den, where advances are made and things change over time. You seem to be stuck in a time warp! :D

muppetman11 20-05-2019 10:44
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If I'm honest I always manage to find things to watch on my Sky Q box in fact much easier than entering Netflix which usually results in frustration.

There are literally hundreds of movies/shows my box either automatically picks up or suggests to me across terrestrial and pay channels.

That's before I even browse the extensive Sky Box Sets section.

Raider999 20-05-2019 11:48
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35995437)
Not true. What about Bodyguard, Victoria, Line of Duty and so on?

My complaint has not been that there are no quality programmes on scheduled TV, just that the number of such programmes are diminishing. This is particularly noticeable on the pay tv channels. Only BBC and ITV seem to be putting themselves out with their own quality dramas at present. Sky does the occasional one such as Strikeback, but there are very few, if any, compelling Sky productions on there these days.

A couple or so years ago, I was recording programmes from quite a range of channels - even minor ones such as 5USA. This no longer happens because I simply can't find stuff to watch any more..

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I live in the real world, Den, where advances are made and things change over time. You seem to be stuck in a time warp! :D

What about Game of Thrones - sky exclusive with a very large following over a number of years

pip08456 20-05-2019 11:58
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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35995474)
What about Game of Thrones - sky exclusive with a very large following over a number of years
GoT is an HBO production. Sky has no involvement in the production.

https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones

muppetman11 20-05-2019 12:03
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35995477)
GoT is an HBO production. Sky has no involvement in the production.

https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones
To be fair he didn't really say they did but his point is valid it has the exclusive UK subscription rights to the show currently.

Raider999 20-05-2019 12:20
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35995477)
GoT is an HBO production. Sky has no involvement in the production.

https://www.hbo.com/game-of-thrones
If you read my post you will see I never said they had, only that they have exclusive broadcasting rights - which is true


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