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mmm 20-09-2020 12:43

Hub3.0 Diags
 
old poster here, same old problem still. Local external box is a repeater coax fed varying signal levels particularly when the sun shines.

Getting frequent disconnects again. They do get into the Hub log (UTC timestamps)

Time Priority Description
20/09/2020 11:21:1 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
20/09/2020 11:21:1 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
20/09/2020 11:20:1 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
20/09/2020 11:20:1 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
20/09/2020 11:19:19 Warning! RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;


Why do these not register in the Tn counts?

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
2 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
3 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
4 ATDMA 0 0 0 0

Is that why the auto tools always say nothing wrong, and I have to get a tech out, who checks everything and then says it is a networks problem who never fix it properly?

General Maximus 20-09-2020 19:37

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
Everyone's log displays errors like that and although at first glance you would think the world is coming to an end, upon closer inspection you see that all the errors are happening within the space of a minute or two and then normal service resumes.
The T errors don't register willy nilly. Each category reflects a specific type of error which you obviously aren't suffering. If you are having problems with frequent disconnects I would suggest you post your power levels and setup a BQM graph if you haven't done so already. It is all great diagnostic evidence for the tech if you need to call one out.


mmm 22-09-2020 11:04

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
I must learn how to do the graph, my problem is unstable power levels, they vary between +9 and -6 when connected and your hit refresh, quite a high error count, but for that also the absolute numbers not important, they increase in bunches.

SnoopZ 22-09-2020 11:42

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
I also NEVER see any errors here when i should, got to be a firmware issue.

Quote:

Why do these not register in the Tn counts?

Upstream bonded channels
Channel Channel Type T1 Timeouts T2 Timeouts T3 Timeouts T4 Timeouts
1 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
2 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
3 ATDMA 0 0 0 0
4 ATDMA 0 0 0 0

heero_yuy 22-09-2020 15:15

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 36051128)
I must learn how to do the graph

Generate the graph for forums that use "BB code" Then copy and paste the entire string. It's quite long.

CF BB code reference and examples can be found here

General Maximus 22-09-2020 18:40

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 36051128)
I must learn how to do the graph

that's why I provided a link in my post :rolleyes:

mmm 04-11-2020 18:53

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
Still must do the graph,again!, I used to know how. My problem before was the local cab as usual, but had to get a tech out to check the house and report to "Networks", was better for a while now gone again... But meanwhile the hub 3.0 has had a firmware update, upstream power has the correct magnitude (was out by factor of 10) and errors do get logged, reset on power on it seems. But reporting via VM website is much harder. Of course the modem is online when tested, can't inititiate the test when not, grrr

Code:

Upstream bonded channels
Channel        Channel Type        T1 Timeouts        T2 Timeouts        T3 Timeouts        T4 Timeouts
1        ATDMA        0        0        17        0
2        ATDMA        0        0        11        0
3        ATDMA        0        0        0        0
4        ATDMA        0        0        0        0

I do actually still have TBB monitor, setup 5 years ago, but now IP address has changed!

SnoopZ 04-11-2020 22:44

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 36056246)
Still must do the graph,again!, I used to know how. My problem before was the local cab as usual, but had to get a tech out to check the house and report to "Networks", was better for a while now gone again... But meanwhile the hub 3.0 has had a firmware update, upstream power has the correct magnitude (was out by factor of 10) and errors do get logged, reset on power on it seems. But reporting via VM website is much harder. Of course the modem is online when tested, can't inititiate the test when not, grrr

Code:

Upstream bonded channels
Channel        Channel Type        T1 Timeouts        T2 Timeouts        T3 Timeouts        T4 Timeouts
1        ATDMA        0        0        17        0
2        ATDMA        0        0        11        0
3        ATDMA        0        0        0        0
4        ATDMA        0        0        0        0

I do actually still have TBB monitor, setup 5 years ago, but now IP address has changed!

Just update the graph to your new IP.

mmm 05-11-2020 21:42

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2020/11/4.png

So how do I get VM to take action? When it works it works, when it doesn't it doesn't. Problem is and cable amplifier in the external box again I suspect, the downstream power when working is +6, but just before it drops out is goes negative.

---------- Post added at 21:30 ---------- Previous post was at 21:22 ----------

Had to wait for it to fail completely last time!

Code:

Network Log
Time        Priority        Description
05/11/2020 19:51:23        Warning!        RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 18:38:25        critical        Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 18:28:25        critical        No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 17:56:40        Warning!        RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 17:42:46        critical        No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 17:35:25        Warning!        RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 17:35:25        critical        SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 17:21:8        Warning!        RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 17:21:8        critical        SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Loss of Sync;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:57:8        Warning!        RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:57:6        critical        No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:49:26        Warning!        RCS Partial Service;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:09:27        critical        No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:09:26        critical        Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:09:26        critical        Ranging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:08:45        critical        No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:08:44        critical        Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:08:44        critical        Ranging Request Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:08:42        critical        No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;
05/11/2020 16:08:25        critical        Unicast Maintenance Ranging attempted - No response - Retries exhausted;CM-MAC=c0:05:c2:03:35:9b;CMTS-MAC=00:01:5c:6c:8a:5b;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.0;



---------- Post added at 21:42 ---------- Previous post was at 21:30 ----------

Code:

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Router status
Status
Downstream
Upstream
Configuration
Network Log
Refresh data
Downstream bonded channels
Channel        Frequency (Hz)        Power (dBmV)        SNR (dB)        Modulation        Channel ID
1        554250000        6.5        37        256 qam        19
2        474250000        6.9        37        256 qam        9
3        482250000        6.5        37        256 qam        10
4        490250000        6.4        37        256 qam        11
5        498250000        6.1        37        256 qam        12
6        506250000        6.4        37        256 qam        13
7        514250000        6.5        37        256 qam        14
8        522250000        6.5        37        256 qam        15
9        530250000        6.1        37        256 qam        16
10        538250000        6.3        37        256 qam        17
11        546250000        6.4        38        256 qam        18
12        562250000        6        37        256 qam        20
13        570250000        5.6        37        256 qam        21
14        578250000        5.6        37        256 qam        22
15        586250000        6        37        256 qam        23
16        594250000        6.1        38        256 qam        24
17        658250000        6        38        256 qam        25
18        666250000        6.5        38        256 qam        26
19        674250000        7        38        256 qam        27
20        682250000        6.9        38        256 qam        28
21        690250000        6.8        38        256 qam        29
22        698250000        7.1        38        256 qam        30
23        706250000        7.5        38        256 qam        31
24        714250000        7.8        38        256 qam        32


Downstream bonded channels
Channel        Locked Status        RxMER (dB)        Pre RS Errors        Post RS Errors
1        Locked        37.6        394        507
2        Locked        37.6        351        795
3        Locked        37.3        368        863
4        Locked        37.6        367        715
5        Locked        37.6        367        645
6        Locked        37.3        386        740
7        Locked        37.6        350        590
8        Locked        37.3        370        626
9        Locked        37.6        362        595
10        Locked        37.6        378        574
11        Locked        38.6        392        509
12        Locked        37.6        397        552
13        Locked        37.6        410        584
14        Locked        37.6        405        548
15        Locked        37.6        408        556
16        Locked        38.6        335        593
17        Locked        38.6        393        588
18        Locked        38.6        389        534
19        Locked        38.9        393        536
20        Locked        38.6        410        468
21        Locked        38.6        410        488
22        Locked        38.6        446        511
23        Locked        38.9        405        545
24        Locked        38.9        371        516


General Maximus 09-11-2020 09:21

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
keep the graphs and screenshots of the post rs errors. When it goes down try to use the VM service status page on your phone to run a test, let it see your connection is down and book and an engineer. Trying to explain it to India and getting somebody out will be like banging your head against a wall.

mmm 17-12-2020 11:23

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
Still have problem, when the sun shines the power levels bounce up and down from + 9 to -3, and get loss of sync. Managed to book an engineer yesterday, very pleasant but wouldn't believe me or what other techs have said. Replaced my white hub 3.0 with a new black hub 3.0, and cable/isolator. But same problem again new IP address/ monitor. But unable to contact them again. the website which has replaced any intelligent life form doesn't even know that you can use Broadband by cable, I'm not using wifi...

"No network issue found
Good news, we didn't find any network issues. However, the problem may be with your in-home connection.

To help fix the issue, you can check the WiFi performance of all devices connected to the Hub."

Going to see what BT fibre offers I have available.
My Broadband Ping

SirThomas 17-12-2020 12:55

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mmm (Post 36062547)
Still have problem, when the sun shines the power levels bounce up and down from + 9 to -3, and get loss of sync.

I see this a lot with water-ingress (into F-Connectors and/or coax), working with satellite internet systems.

Likely a wet joint or cable damage somewhere. For starters have you checked your driveway for cable damage? - I've stuck a lawn edger through my own before (thanks to Nynex for planting it 1inch deep!) :)

Like BT, they won't believe you until they see signal issues happening in-person. Modem's don't generally ever die unless really old and the demod dies.

Tom

spiderplant 17-12-2020 13:59

Re: Hub3.0 Diags
 
I'll get a network engineer out to it if I can see a problem, but your signal levels look OK at the moment. Send me a PM next time they drop.


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