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Also as someone pointed out IF the service is being provided by a 3rd party company, who isn't even in the UK, then there may be some privacy issues. I don't have a chip on my shoulder about the company. I am satisfied with my broadband and telephone service. Their offshore call centers have a lot to be desired, but once you get someone competent and not a script reader, problems do get fixed. However, I DO object to them sneaking things like this in, and the underhand method of sneaking it in without telling anyone until after the fact, makes me wonder what else they are planning. |
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I am with Milambar with this one, I would much rather opt in to something and not opt out when I get round to noticing something is not quite right.
As far as you saying 'it's nothing major' webcrawler, how many nothing majors do you have to join together to make something major? Paranoia is not even an issue here, I don't feel the need to get my tin-foil hat out from the bomb proof cupboard under the stairs but surely it's within everyone right to be aware on what is going on around them. |
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You can't use the internal DNS on a VPN all the time, when you disconnect you won't be able to resolve a thing. Have you actually used VPNs at all dev, given that you made a comment 'from what I can tell'? Quote:
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Just a question but does this actually affect all lookups or just those on the HTTP protocol (if there is a difference)
If you ping a non-existant domain what happens? |
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Not wanting to quote anyone in particular, but to all those who bang on about Internet standards as being the be-all that ends-all (?), who of you, or us, have security measures in to protect their PC's/Networks that breach fundamental RFC's? Probably everyone who is concerned about their security, and most of those against this mechanism quote a potential security issue.
Me puts hand up. Granted this DNS hijack should probably have been opt in rather than opt out, but as has already been pointed out we are at liberty to say no, once and for all. "Mission creep", "erosion of privacy", "breaking internet standards", "money grabbing ISP's" are all terms we love to bandy about like sweets flying out of a pinata. We talk about Internet standards in terms of "must", "do" or "should" as if it really matters, or it supports an argument. Well that's fine in one way, but surely the same argument has to be applied to other things reliant on the same standards that we don't appear to mind, can we have it both ways? VM have provided many with a reliable Broadband service, reasonably consistent speeds near to the advertised package, and a host of other bits n pieces such as security software, email, and other services such as V Stuff(ed) and that new music thingy coming out this year. So, they want to make a few pence of each link me may click on if we get a page error, assuming we haven't opted-out. I don't have a problem with it. Security breaches from said service? XSS perhaps - get a good browser with some decent add ons such as no-script - cracking utility in my opinion. |
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In my defence I didn't talk about it being a privacy or a security matter, just a pain in the backside that breaks things. |
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A journey of a 1000 miles is accomplished 1 step at a time.
Who is best placed to decide when a step is a step too far. The treader or the trodden on. Just a thought. :) |
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Next up, someone will quote Pastor Neimoller....;)
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Hey I'm a poet and I.... :D |
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