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Jerrek 28-02-2004 16:23

Wages
 
I used to be salaried, but this semester I get wages. What is the minimum wage in Britain? And what is average for a university student in the math or engineering faculty?

Minimum wage in Ontario is C$7.15 per hour [£2.90].

Students in the engineering and math faculties usually earn:

1st year: C$563 per week (C$14.10 per hour) [£226 p.w., £5.66 p.h.]
2nd year: C$678 per week (C$16.95 per hour) [£272 p.w., £6.80 p.h.]
3rd year: C$772 per week (C$19.30 per hour) [£310 p.w., £7.75 p.h.]
4th year: C$800+ per week (over C$20 per hour) [£320+ p.w., £8.00+ p.h.]

Graduation: starting at $48,000 a year [£19,250] on average


Damn, after conversion, I just realized how worthless the loony is. Reason I'm wondering is I want to try and get a co-op job outside of Canada and the United States. Probably Australia or Ireland. But I'd take anyplace. :)

paulyoung666 28-02-2004 16:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrek
I used to be salaried, but this semester I get wages. What is the minimum wage in Britain? And what is average for a university student in the math or engineering faculty?

Minimum wage in Ontario is C$7.15 per hour [£2.90].

Students in the engineering and math faculties usually earn:

1st year: C$563 per week (C$14.10 per hour) [£226 p.w., £5.66 p.h.]
2nd year: C$678 per week (C$16.95 per hour) [£272 p.w., £6.80 p.h.]
3rd year: C$772 per week (C$19.30 per hour) [£310 p.w., £7.75 p.h.]
4th year: C$800+ per week (over C$20 per hour) [£320+ p.w., £8.00+ p.h.]

Graduation: starting at $48,000 a year [£19,250] on average



Damn, after conversion, I just realized how worthless the loony is. Reason I'm wondering is I want to try and get a co-op job outside of Canada and the United States. Probably Australia or Ireland. But I'd take anyplace. :)



i think this is going to be another confusing one , what are these ppl earning the money for , is it some sort of apprenticeship ????????????? , minimum wage in the uk is about £4.50 hour :)

Bifta 28-02-2004 16:34

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Probably Australia or Ireland.

I'll petition the Australian Embassy for you ....

paulyoung666 28-02-2004 16:36

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Originally Posted by Bifta
I'll petition the Australian Embassy for you ....



now now :D :D :D



be nice :D :D :D

Bifta 28-02-2004 16:40

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Australia might let him keep his mini-armoury .. If he tries to bring any of them over here he'll end up in Mountjoy prison for a long, long time sitting alongside terrorists :D

Jerrek 28-02-2004 16:41

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
i think this is going to be another confusing one , what are these ppl earning the money for , is it some sort of apprenticeship ????????????? , minimum wage in the uk is about £4.50 hour :)

Yeah oops, forgot to state that... IT industry, or telecom industry. Any job really... From programming to testing to developing to designing, whatever. :)

Bifta 28-02-2004 16:43

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There is no average on our IT or Telecoms industry workers, they can earn from 10 grand right up to over 100 grand in various roles.

paulyoung666 28-02-2004 16:45

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whats a co - op job ?????????????

timewarrior2001 28-02-2004 16:46

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Originally Posted by Bifta
There is no average on our IT or Telecoms industry workers, they can earn from 10 grand right up to over 100 grand in various roles.

Not to mention the thousands that are qualified and cannot get work because the UK IT industry is pathetic :(

Bifta 28-02-2004 16:48

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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
Not to mention the thousands that are qualified and cannot get work because the UK IT industry is pathetic :(

You should try Ireland or N. Ireland, you're more likely to spend the night with Angelina Jolie than find an IT position. Luckily my job entails me working for a UK based company remotely :D

yesman 28-02-2004 16:57

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666
whats a co - op job ?????????????

Working on the bacon counter usually :)

aliferste 28-02-2004 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrek
Damn, after conversion, I just realized how worthless the loony is. Reason I'm wondering is I want to try and get a co-op job outside of Canada and the United States. Probably Australia or Ireland. But I'd take anyplace. :)

I thought you had a tough stance on economic migrants as well??
:rolleyes:

Jerrek 28-02-2004 17:06

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Co-op is not in the UK? Hmm... Maybe you call it something different.

Most degree program these days are co-op in North America. You combine working with studying and thus get a better degree.

Previously, it was:

Semester 1 (Sept - Dec): STUDY
Semester 2 (Jan - April): STUDY
Semester 3 (May - Aug): OFF, but most students would try to find a job


With co-op, it becomes:

Year 1, Semester 1: STUDY
Year 1, Semester 2: CO-OP JOB
Year 1, Semester 3: STUDY
Year 2, Semester 1: Co-OP JOB
...
YEAR 5, Semester 2: STUDY (and graduation)

It takes one year longer than a regular program, but the program itself is 4 years. You also graduate with 2 years working experience. However, there are no vacations for 5 years. :(

In order to get a credit for a co-op semester, you need to work in your field, you need to get a positive evaluation from your employer, and you need to submit a 2,000 word work report to your employer and faculty.

Advantages are:

- you get experience in your field, or even in areas not quite in your field
- money to pay for school
- you don't get burnt out from school
- freedom... you work for a different employer every other 4 months (or you can stay if you wish). This gives a lot of diverse work experience.

So basically, I'm wondering what university students in the IT industry gets paid in the United Kingdom.

I haven't seen may UK companies at my school, but the Australians, Japanese, and Finns are very anxiously grabbing co-op students.

(Employers go to the school and post the jobs they have available. Students go on the school's website and applies to the jobs they want. Employers then pick the students they want to interview, and then make a decision who they want to hire.

Ie. start of a study semester, I get my "package" in order (resume, cover letter, references, etc.) I make 24 copies of it. I go to the website, and look through the hundreds of jobs available. I take down the bin numbers. Then, next day, I go to school and drop all my resume packages off into the bins. (I apply to 24 jobs.) The employers go through the resumes, decide who to interview, and tells the school. The school then schedules all the interviews.

In the end, you rank all the jobs. Your ranking, plus the employers ranking, decides which job you get.)

Of course, you can find a job on your own, which is what I'm doing right now. I'm looking into foreign opportunities for the September - December 2004 term, and the April - August 2005 term.

Jerrek 28-02-2004 17:08

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Originally Posted by aliferste
I thought you had a tough stance on economic migrants as well??
:rolleyes:

Permanent immigrants, yes. Didn't you read what I wrote? (You can trust me... No offense, but I don't want to immigrate (again) :P )

aliferste 28-02-2004 18:35

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Permanent immigrants, yes. Didn't you read what I wrote? (You can trust me... No offense, but I don't want to immigrate (again) :P )

So someone that just wants to make money and then bolt off home is ok by you?

NOT someone who wants to make a new life and contribute fully to local economies?

Seems its only ok if you are doing it!


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