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Paul 30-06-2025 17:31

Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
Police have launched investigations into the Bob Vylan and Kneecap Glastonbury sets.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd0vvnl41mno

The BBC is in a bit of hot water around the fact it continued to broadcast Bob Vylan.

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It comes after the BBC said it should have cut away from a live broadcast of Bob Vylan's performance, during which the band's singer led a chant of "death, death to the IDF [Israel Defense Forces]".
Its a little more unclear what was wrong with the Kneecap performance, which afaik, wasnt broadcast at the time.

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Avon and Somerset Police did not specify which part of Bob Vylan's or Kneecap's set would be subject to the criminal investigation.

papa smurf 30-06-2025 17:45

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
if they start prosecuting acts it's probably going to put off acts performing in future

Jaymoss 30-06-2025 18:19

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36198716)
if they start prosecuting acts it's probably going to put off acts performing in future

well what was chanted could be seen as incitement . IMO they should be prosecuted for that

papa smurf 30-06-2025 18:41

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36198719)
well what was chanted could be seen as incitement . IMO they should be prosecuted for that

The crowd chanted it back are they all to be prosecuted as well

jem 30-06-2025 18:51

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
If individuals can be identified and there its sufficient proof that they did chant it, then, presumably, yes.

1701-e 30-06-2025 19:18

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
In Belfast police arrested a 72 yo Jewish woman recently for putting Palestinian stickers on an atm. We're getting closer to a police state if the priority is protesters over real criminals .
They don't stop the orange order marches where they sing about "up to our knees in Fenian blood" which happens almost daily.

Paul 30-06-2025 19:38

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36198716)
if they start prosecuting acts it's probably going to put off acts performing in future

Only the ones planning to break the law.

Jaymoss 30-06-2025 19:50

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36198721)
The crowd chanted it back are they all to be prosecuted as well

That would be up to the CPS although they were the incited not the inciters

papa smurf 30-06-2025 19:55

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36198728)
That would be up to the CPS although they were the incited not the inciters

or willing participants, from what i hear BOb vylan have a reputation for this kind of stuff

thenry 30-06-2025 20:01

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
Hippies. That is all.

Paul 30-06-2025 20:09

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36198732)
Hippies. That is all.

I thought they were a Punk group ?

Anyway, they wont be going to the states now, the US has revoked their Visa's

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The group was slated to perform at 26 concerts as part of their upcoming US tour, according to online posts, lasting between late October and mid-December this year. However, it is unlikely the tour can go ahead without the performers possessing visas.

Chris 30-06-2025 20:22

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
“Unlikely”? :rofl:

admars 30-06-2025 22:09

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
I've seen Bob Vylan live a couple of times, they're very good, luckily I was watching the live stream so got to see that as well.

It's as Kneecap have been saying since they got in hot water, the press are keen to talk about what these ppl said, but happy to ignore what they were talking about, the real issue which provoked the statements.

The "funny" thing is, I don't think they expected any of the crowd, or anyone at home to jump on a plane, fly to a warzone and start killing soldiers.

the messages screened behind the group were interestin as well - The UN calls it genocide, the BBC calls it conflict.

Kneecap wasn't broadcast live, but you can watch a lot of it un iplayer - you can hear the free Palestone chants, and jokes about BBC not being able to edit out all the flags etc, not sure how much was cut.

Damien 01-07-2025 08:31

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
It's clear what Bob Vylan did that the police can investigate, although I am not sure it it will reach a criminal level.

What did Kneecap do? I am aware of what they've said elsewhere that's got them in trouble, but here I don't see anything worthy of investigation. They joked about a riot outside the court before specifically saying they're not serious, they said the British government is aiding a genocide, and they said 'f Starmer'. None of which is close to illegal.

I also don't see what the BBC did wrong. They stream these performances live, and it's a great thing to do. A side-effect is that you can't be sure what will happen at a live event, and we as the audience understand that. I hope this doesn't stop that.

Pierre 01-07-2025 10:26

Re: Glastonbury Performance Investigations
 
People just want consistency and the law applied fairly across the board.

Lucy Connolly remains in prison for Tweet.

Personally, I don't think Bob Vylan should be prosecuted, but neither do I think Lucy Connolly should be in prison.

And as Lucy Connolly is in prison, then to be consistent Vylan should be charged for inciting violence.


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