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RichardCoulter 20-12-2024 14:03

Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
What do people think about this advice from the feds?

https://uk.pcmag.com/android/155983/...dont-use-a-vpn

Stephen 20-12-2024 14:09

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Not American so I don't really care what they have to say.

Chris 20-12-2024 14:33

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36187973)
Not American so I don't really care what they have to say.

Their advice has nothing to do with being American. They are warning that a VPN service provider with weak security policies or obscure ownership structures is unsafe. Just because it’s a VPN doesn’t mean it can’t be hacked and your data can’t be intercepted. Their argument is that you’re not making your communications more secure, you’re just shifting the burden to protect you from your ISP to your VPN provider.

They are giving this advice mainly to high value targets who would likely be of interest to attackers, especially state sponsored ones. They’re saying nothing about using a VPN to obscure your IP address and get cheap overseas streaming or to download ripped TV shows without getting caught.

Paul 20-12-2024 15:44

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36187973)
Not American so I don't really care what they have to say.

Thats a very silly attitude, the advice is sound.

RichardCoulter 20-12-2024 20:08

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
I imagine using those based in places like Russia is a bad idea for obvious reasons.

Would it be fair to say that free VPN's are potentially less secure than paid for VPN's? My logic is that they have to make their money from somewhere and could be more open to selling data or not have the money to make their service particularly secure.

I think it's probably better not to use a VPN for things like banking as long as it has secure encryption and just use it for things like accessing overseas streaming services.

Hugh 20-12-2024 23:31

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
This is why I use SurfShark (other VPNs are available)

Quote:

In November 2018, Surfshark’s Chrome and Firefox browser extensions underwent an external audit by a German cybersecurity firm, Cure53. Following the extension audits, in April 2021, Surfshark’s server infrastructure was audited, again by Cure53. In January 2023, Surfshark underwent an independent assurance procedure by Deloitte where they verified Surfshark’s "no-logs" statement.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfshark_VPN

thenry 21-12-2024 12:03

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Surfshark is owned by Nord. Nord has had its own security issues. Do you believe the companies will ever merge?

Mr K 21-12-2024 13:17

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
I use Proton free vpn. Its fine when I occasionally have to pretend be abroad to watch a football match.
https://uk.pcmag.com/vpn/116478/protonvpn

Hugh 21-12-2024 13:39

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36188038)
Surfshark is owned by Nord. Nord has had its own security issues. Do you believe the companies will ever merge?

Are you talking about the breach six years ago?

If they ever merge, I will review the situation, and act accordingly.

thenry 21-12-2024 14:02

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36188044)
Are you talking about the breach six years ago?

If they ever merge, I will review the situation, and act accordingly.

Yeah I searched Wikipedia for NordVPN after seeing your post

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NordVPN

It says it was a data center which Nord ceased relations with soon after. So not totally at fault on Nords behalf.

Recent telegram changes like that of Nord to comply with authorises has raised eyebrows but I guess we have to submit to some form of authoritarian.

RichardCoulter 09-01-2025 18:00

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Another warning has been put out:

https://www.techradar.com/vpn/google...s-with-malware

thenry 09-01-2025 18:32

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Popular apps meaning Nord, Express, SurfShark, Proton, Cyberghost, PIA.. etc. ?

Or the unknown low profile play store junk?

I've never heard of LetsVPN and I like to think I'm aware of popular brands.

Chris 09-01-2025 20:31

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36189017)
Popular apps meaning Nord, Express, SurfShark, Proton, Cyberghost, PIA.. etc. ?

Or the unknown low profile play store junk?

I've never heard of LetsVPN and I like to think I'm aware of popular brands.

Popular as in any of the above. The article is a warning against assuming the result you get on a search engine links to the authentic version of the product. You can end up on a scam website with a counterfeit version of the software riddled with spyware.

However that isn’t a problem specific to VPNs by any means. Any piece of software can be counterfeited and compromised.

thenry 09-01-2025 20:35

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Have any of the well known VPN ever been cloned?

Chris 09-01-2025 20:43

Re: Why using a VPN may not be such a good idea.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36189035)
Have any of the well known VPN ever been cloned?

I don’t know, but there’s no reason why they couldn’t be. It doesn’t have to be a brilliantly executed clone as long as it’s superficially similar and functions as a VPN. If you were downloading it from a fake website, it’s likely because you’ve not used the product before, or not enough to easily spot a fake. All they need to do is get you to install it.

But, I repeat, this is not a problem unique to VPN products. Any app can be copied and there will always be unwary users out there to download it. With reference to the thread title, the article Richard linked to is not proof that using a VPN may not be a good idea.


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