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Chris 07-12-2024 22:14

[update] Assad flees Syria, rebels take Damascus
 
The Arab Spring ground to a halt in Syria because Russia backed Assad in order to protect its warm-water port in Tartus. Now, Russia’s military is hollowed out and unable to save him …

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwy8xzxe0w7t

Tonight Assad is nowhere to be seen (though his office insists he hasn’t fled) and ship movements out of Tartus suggest the Russian Mediterranean fleet may be fleeing. If that turns out to be true it’s a strategic calamity for Russia, which can’t even fall back to its Black Sea ports because Turkey has closed the Bosporus to military vessels. And it’s a long, long way to Kaliningrad when you have limited support vessels in attendance.

Back in Syria, however, the rebels are not exactly ‘our people’ - the whiff of Al Quaeda is strong.

Hugh 07-12-2024 23:14

Re: Beginning of the end for Assad of Syria?
 
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However, Syria's defence ministry said that news "about terrorists entering the city of Homs is unfounded", adding that "armed forces are deployed around the city, positioned in strong defensive lines reinforced with various types of weapons".

The Syrian army says it's bolstering defences around the capital, contradicting reports its forces had withdrawn from some areas.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1733613238

papa smurf 08-12-2024 07:38

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sky news reporting assad has left Damascus by plane for unknown destination

can't believe how quickly this has happened

https://news.sky.com/story/syrian-pr...ports-13269339

mrmistoffelees 08-12-2024 08:08

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Disregarding the background/motives of a portion of the rebels from a purely tactical perspective they’ve played this perfectly. Wait until the 3rd parties which support your opponent are unwilling or unable to provide support and then basically walk in and take the country with minimal resistance and casualties

papa smurf 08-12-2024 08:22

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Now that the not so good guys have taken over from the other not so good guy what happens next?

Chris 08-12-2024 09:06

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36187315)
Now that the not so good guys have taken over from the other not so good guy what happens next?

I guess we’re back to the 1990s when it was considered useful to have one lot of Muslims daggers drawn against another lot to try to keep the Middle East in check. The rebels in Syria are Al Quaeda-adjacent and Sunni. They hate the West but they also usefully hate Iran (Shia).

Problem is the last time Al Quaeda got too comfortable it didn’t work out so well in the end.

Pierre 08-12-2024 09:38

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CIA will be busy.

Hugh 08-12-2024 09:39

Re: Beginning of the end for Assad of Syria?
 
And there is the additional flash-point of the Turkish-backed Syrian National Army fighting the US-backed Kurdish militias (who were fighting Islamic State) in the north-west of Syria around Aleppo.

jfman 08-12-2024 10:15

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36187317)
CIA will be busy.

The CIA have been busy I suspect.

GrimUpNorth 08-12-2024 10:51

Re: Beginning of the end for Assad of Syria?
 
I think Turkish fingers are in this up to their elbows.

Maggy 08-12-2024 11:50

Re: Beginning of the end for Assad of Syria?
 
Oh I'm pretty sure EVERYONE is having a good meddle in the middle.

Mr K 08-12-2024 12:08

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36187315)
Now that the not so good guys have taken over from the other not so good guy what happens next?

Lots of Syrians will be booking journeys on little boats.

papa smurf 08-12-2024 12:11

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36187326)
Lots of Syrians will be booking journeys on little boats.

No it's safe to go back now ,this is a bonus for Starmer .

Chris 08-12-2024 12:17

Re: Beginning of the end for Assad of Syria?
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36187320)
The CIA have been busy I suspect.

For once we agree. Someone clearly gave the rebels a nudge and pointed out that Russia is no longer in a position to prop Assad up, what with them throwing everything at moving a few inches closer to Kyiv each year.

GrimUpNorth 08-12-2024 12:29

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36187328)
For once we agree. Someone clearly gave the rebels a nudge and pointed out that Russia is no longer in a position to prop Assad up, what with them throwing everything at moving a few inches closer to Kyiv each year.

And Iran being otherwise engaged probably played a large part too.


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