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Osem	11-12-2015 16:48

Illegal schools closed

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Ofsted is to set up a taskforce of inspectors to seek out unregistered schools that are operating outside the law in England.

Chief Inspector of Schools Sir Michael Wilshaw says there is a serious and growing threat to the safety of children.

Inspectors have found three unregistered schools operating in Birmingham in recent weeks.

The government says it is taking robust steps against unregistered schools.

Anywhere that offers more than 20 hours a week of teaching is legally obliged to be registered as a school. The three schools inspected by Ofsted had not met this requirement to register.

It is likely the children being sent to some of the centres breaching that threshold are registered as home-educated.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35070984

This beggars belief. Given the climate we've been living in for the last decade or so, I'd have thought this would already have been routine practice. God only knows what sort of nonsense (harmful or otherwise) these children are being exposed to.

Taf	11-12-2015 18:10

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"Misogynistic, homophobic and anti-Semitic material".

Hugh	11-12-2015 18:25

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Donald Trump has schools in Brum?

Ramrod

11-12-2015 21:05

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Yep. He set them up for the muslims population there :D

Osem	11-12-2015 21:28

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35812444)

"Misogynistic, homophobic and anti-Semitic material".

How misogynistic, homophobic and anti-Semitic I wonder? Extremism anyone?

:erm:

Ignitionnet

12-12-2015 13:24

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35812478)

How misogynistic, homophobic and anti-Semitic I wonder? Extremism anyone?

:erm:

Think you're mistaking extremism for standard 'non-liberal' and 'non-reformed' Islam.

They're just being taught what's in the book that is the word of Allah, perfectly transcribed by Muhammad from the mouth of Gabriel.

Hugh	12-12-2015 13:41

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812473)

Yep. He set them up for the muslims population there :D

But he just won't let them in... ;)

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35812534)

http://www.vox.com/identities/2015/1...le-quran-video ;)

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People make a lot of assumptions about Islam compared with Christianity and Judaism — particularly that it's more inherently violent. But do people really know what they're talking about, or are they simplifying complicated belief systems to make a political point?

The team at Dit Is Normaal decided to put this to the test in the Netherlands, where they're based. So they disguised a Bible as a Quran, read verses from the Bible (such as "You will have to cut off her hand"), and asked people for their thoughts. People by and large reacted with a lot of "othering" of Muslims — making remarks like, "If you've been raised with this book and these kinds of thoughts, it's going to influence the way you think."

Then they found out the verses came from the Bible, not the Quran. They were shocked. "It's all just prejudice, really. I always try not to be prejudiced myself, but apparently I already am," one person said. Another person added, "Of course I've heard Bible stories when I was young, and I went to a Christian school, but I really had no idea this was in there."

Ramrod

12-12-2015 14:51

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Did they quote old or new testament passages in that stunt?

techguyone

12-12-2015 15:01

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Quran & Islam could do with a whole New Testament that's for sure, I'm unclear how Christians got their New Testament, and if it's even possibles for Muslims to do the same.

Hugh	12-12-2015 15:38

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812544)

Did they quote old or new testament passages in that stunt?

Lots of Christians quote Leviticus to oppose Marriage equality.

And as Jesus said

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Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

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Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35812546)

Quran & Islam could do with a whole New Testament that's for sure, I'm unclear how Christians got their New Testament, and if it's even possibles for Muslims to do the same.

Christians got the New Testament because of Christ's existence - before that, there weren't any... ;)

The Old Testament is based on Hebrew Scriptures, from before Christ.

Ignitionnet

12-12-2015 16:29

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Thankfully most Christians take their Bible far less seriously than many Muslims.

The heads of both the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches promote not taking the whole thing literally.

This is something of a contrast to Islam. Needs an enlightenment.

Either way that experiment is a massive straw man. It's comparing extremist Christians to mainstream Islam. Christianity doesn't consider itself the perfect religion and its holy book the undiluted, immaculately transcribed word of God. It's like using young Earth creationists as the stereotypical Christian, which they are not, and claiming all Christians are anti-science.

Christianity has benefited greatly from its extra 600 years, which is why we see many Nobel winners who are Christians and virtually none who are Muslim. The Islamic world has contributed very little of value to humanity in a while.

Hugh	12-12-2015 17:30

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Thankfully most Christians take their Bible far less seriously than many Muslims.

If you lived in mid-West USA or Indonesia, you may have to re-evaluate that statement - Indonesian Muslims have a much more laissez-faire attitude than Middle-Eastern or Pakistan/Afghan Muslims, and Bible-belt Christians in the USA (and in parts of Africa) have a much more hard-line viewpoint than those from elsewhere.

Point I am trying to make is, that "one-size" doesn't fit all, and if we insist on removing gray areas, we are doing ISIL's job for them, by putting forward the viewpoint "if you're not with us completely and in agreement with everything we say, you must be against us".

That way lies further confrontation and escalation.

Ramrod

12-12-2015 18:04

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35812549)

Lots of Christians quote Leviticus to oppose Marriage equality.

.....and what do they quote from the bible to justify cutting off non christians heads?

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From the Vicar of Baghdad (Canon Andrew White):

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......Here White is out of step with liberal opinion. He agrees absolutely that Isis are uniquely horrible, but he thinks the problem of talking to them comes from within the Quran itself.

‘The trouble is a lack of forgiveness in Islam. I have looked through the Quran trying to find forgiveness… there isn’t any. If you find it, tell me. This makes it very difficult to talk to Isis because they can show you quite clearly that it is what Allah wants. They can justify their position when Allah says you should combat and fight the infidel and they say, “Well, these are infidels.” So the question is, how can you prove that these are not infidels? And you can’t.’

link

Hugh	12-12-2015 19:33

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No, but they quote from the bible when they shoot staff and customers at Planned Parenthood, and when they bomb the buildings..

Ramrod

12-12-2015 23:31

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I'm pretty sure that they aren't actually real christians ;)

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