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Arthurgray50@blu 20-06-2015 18:26

UK Wide protests
 
http://news.sky.com/story/1505401/th...erity-protests

There is only one scenario about this demonstration is - WILL Cameron and Osborne care about this - simple answer is NO

They will not care about what cuts they make. The have also got to find money to py for the total refurbish of the Palace of Westminster.

We will end up paying for this, while they live the life of riley

The United Kingdom is a rich country, but the way we are going, we could be a third world country within the next two to three years.

And the poor will be poorer. and food banks trebled

multiskilled 20-06-2015 19:02

Re: UK Wide protests
 
Just waiting for the usual suspects to turn up.

denphone 20-06-2015 19:30

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Osem has took them all out for the night l hear.;):D

Ramrod 20-06-2015 19:50

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The protestors are right. We should simply spend all the money (again) :dozey:

Paul 20-06-2015 19:58

Re: UK Wide protests
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35784151)
The United Kingdom is a rich country, but the way we are going, we could be a third world country within the next two to three years.

You really are full of dramatic rubbish.

Julian 20-06-2015 20:13

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The only way we will become a third world country is if we let in enough people from third world countries.;)

Arthurgray50@blu 20-06-2015 20:19

Re: UK Wide protests
 
I get really fed up with people who support Cameron and His bloody cuts.

This is why he didn't mention anything in the election run up. I was brought up in Poverty, and it bloody hurts.

When l retire, l will end up knowing that this government will ruin everything that l have worked damn hard to support.

Am l bitter, yes, my son was sacked on Wednesday due to the cuts. As his employer couldn't afford to keep him on.

MalteseFalcon 20-06-2015 20:34

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I have sympathy for your son, I really do Arthur. However, the reality is that the cycle of borrow and spend under Labour nearly sent us into chaos like America and Greece. Recovery might be taking a long time, but cuts are necessary to try and restore us back to the great Nation we should be.

I'm not saying that the cuts are 100% right or ethical, but something needs to be done to try and turn us around. I can think of several places where cuts would be better found, but the financial packages needed to get rid of them would probably be too expensive.

Pierre 20-06-2015 20:48

Re: UK Wide protests
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35784164)
I get really fed up with people who support Cameron and His bloody cuts.

That's a lot then, at least over a third of the voting population.

Quote:

This is why he didn't mention anything in the election run up. I was brought up in Poverty, and it bloody hurts.
I think the conservative manifesto was clear? And they got in on it.

Arthurgray50@blu 20-06-2015 20:52

Re: UK Wide protests
 
Mark, l am grateful for your comments. But in reality, It appears to me that everyone is equal in this country.

We should also pay our fair share of taxes. But you tell me is it fair that people who have to pay Bedroom tax for example, are 90% in the poor region.

And yet, millionaires and people with pots of money and have five /six bedroom mansions pay the same tax. Is that fare.

They probably get more in interest rates than anything.

This is why these demonstration are about. Its not fare. And Cameron and co don't give a damn.

My son has been told that he will get about £60 per week, as his wife is on 16000 per year as a Geriatric Nurse and looks after the elderly.

The United Kingdom is rich, and there are never any fears of this country, turning into other countries.

We have this division in the country - the Rich on one side, and the poor on the other

Hugh 20-06-2015 21:06

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Arthur, I am sorry to hear about your son's predicament, but I must pick you up on one of your points...

Quote:

We should also pay our fair share of taxes. But you tell me is it fair that people who have to pay Bedroom tax for example, are 90% in the poor region.

And yet, millionaires and people with pots of money and have five /six bedroom mansions pay the same tax. Is that fare.
The so-called "bedroom tax" is actually a reduction in Housing Benefit for over-occupation (for example, if there are two people, say mother and son, living in a three-bedroomed accommodation, they will have their Housing Benefit reduced).

I don't know many people with pots of money living in five/six bedroomed houses who get Housing Benefit - I am willing to be proven wrong, though....

btw, I live in a four bedroomed home, and was paying £950 per month on a mortgage and another £160 per month in Council Tax, and received no reduction, so how I was paying the same Bedroom Tax as someone living in Council/Social Housing confuses me...

Gary L 20-06-2015 22:11

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Summer's here.
I hope these protests don't turn into riots all over again.

---------- Post added at 23:11 ---------- Previous post was at 23:00 ----------

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35784175)
The so-called "bedroom tax" is actually a reduction in Housing Benefit for over-occupation (for example, if there are two people, say mother and son, living in a three-bedroomed accommodation, they will have their Housing Benefit reduced).

Oh no. not the Bedroom Tax again.

The mother and son were living in that 3 bedroomed house for a few years on "the minimum amount the law says that you need to live on"

then Dave invented a tax so they are now not living on the "the minimum amount the law says that they need to live on"

and there's no smaller properties avaiable for the mother and son to change to.

heero_yuy 21-06-2015 08:20

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There isn't the money to go on another splurge unless taxes go up to fund it so the protesters are on a hiding to nothing.

ianch99 21-06-2015 08:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35784161)
You really are full of dramatic rubbish.

A response to the rubbish posted by the right wing members of this forum .. he is trying to balance things out although he is outnumbered

Hugh 21-06-2015 08:41

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Nothing like stereotyping to help the debate along.....

Debating is about "what's right", and the focus should be on propositions and positions, with facts and opinions (hopefully) backing these up - people may not agree, but can be civilised about it.

Arguing is about "who's right", and is just about nay-saying, labelling, and 'getting one over' on others....


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