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Mr Angry 09-02-2015 18:49

Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
This could prove interesting.

"Social media users who spread racial hatred should be banned from sites such as Twitter and Facebook, MPs say.

The All-Party Parliamentary Inquiry into anti-Semitism wants prosecutors to examine whether prevention orders like those used to restrict sex offenders' internet access could be used.

The cross-party group also highlighted the use of anti-Semitic terms online.

Last week, a Community Security Trust report said UK anti-Semitic incidents more than doubled to 1,168 in 2014.

The trust - which monitors anti-Semitism in Britain - says this was its highest figure recorded since it began work in 1984."


BBC

papa smurf 09-02-2015 20:34

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
how long has Jewish[Judaism] been a race i thought it was a religious cult

Damien 09-02-2015 20:43

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35758206)
how long has Jewish[Judaism] been a race i thought it was a religious cult

The Jewish people are a race descendant from the Israelites. So they've been a race for a very long time. Judaism is also a religion.

nomadking 09-02-2015 20:48

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
You can become a Jew just as you can become a Muslim or a Catholic etc.
Link

Quote:

Converting to Judaism is not easy. It involves many lifestyle changes and about a year of studying.
Becoming a Jew is not just a religious change: the convert not only accepts the Jewish faith, but becomes a member of the Jewish People and embraces Jewish culture and history.
If you marry somebody from one of those 3 religions, and you are not from their religion, you are likely to be "asked" to convert.

papa smurf 09-02-2015 20:53

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35758210)
The Jewish people are a race descendant from the Israelites. So they've been a race for a very long time. Judaism is also a religion.

so are you saying being a jew is genetic

Russ 09-02-2015 20:59

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
It'll be one good way to remove illiteracy from the internet.

Damien 09-02-2015 21:10

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35758213)
so are you saying being a jew is genetic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews

I think it's actually a bit debatable to the extent to which Jewish people now are a race. Still there is a differentiation between Judaism and the Jewish people even if the Jewish people are primarily followers of Judaism. We might need someone with a better understanding of the history of it all.

Mr Angry 10-02-2015 08:35

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35758206)
how long has Jewish[Judaism] been a race i thought it was a religious cult

I don't believe anyone involved in the report has stated that jews / judaism is a race. A report studying Anti-semitism simply noted:

"It was suggested to us that “whether, if it is not within the hate crime materials developed by CPS, guidance that specifically addresses racist/religious hatred based communications sent via social media should be developed”.

The report authors recommended that it should.

tweetiepooh 10-02-2015 12:39

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
I think historically a Jew is a member of the tribe of Judah (or latter the tribes that formed Judah as distinct from Israel).

Semitic people are (by definition) descendants of Shem, Noah's son, so includes the Arabs as well as Jews. Though generally it is applied to Jewish people only.

As to the report, does it matter whether is applies to a race or faith group, "hate speech" isn't something to tolerate? One issue though is the definition of "hate speech". If is solely based on whether the "recipient" feels it to be "hateful" then you can end up with simple criticism being declared as "hateful".

Gary L 10-02-2015 13:09

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
Or just stick to being offended and having someone arrested for it.

DABhand 10-02-2015 16:33

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
There is a guy on Liveleak who is very very very anti-Islamic and lives in Israel... He talks about how Islam is evil... and most Muslims hate anything non-Islamic. And that is why he hates Muslims.

When I pointed out that he was doing the same thing, by thinking all Muslims are evil because they are non-Jewish, he wasn't happy about it.

Religious people have to realize, that all Religions have their extremist groups and they are very very insignificant percentage of the whole population of their religion. And in most cases these extremists groups although misuse whatever religion they think they are a part of, most of the time the numbers aren't all that religion.

ISIS for example, not all of them are Islamic worshippers, but cry out for Islam. It is all hypocritical.

Don't get me started on Fox News though.... oh boy those guys are numpties, last week they had a guy on saying Birmingham was a no-go zone. And the other day another guy said in all other religions that 0% of killings weren't done in the name of that religion. Guess he forgot about David Koresh, Timothy McVeigh and Anders Breivik who have all killed in the name of Christianity.. (well Koresh burned everyone alive in Wako but kinda the same thing).

Even die hard Christians hate to be reminded they have had their fair share of extremists and terrorists. Cause how can that be since they are not the "evil Islam".

tweetiepooh 11-02-2015 11:30

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
One difference is that Christianity explicitly teaches "love your enemies"

Mt 5:44 "But now I tell you: love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"
Lk 6:27 "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,"
Lk 6:35 "No! Love your enemies and do good to them;"

So even if there has be violence done in Christ's name it is clearly contrary to His teaching.

Gary L 11-02-2015 11:46

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
What is an enemy in biblical terms?

is it someone who fights you?

or is someone like a rapist classed as an enemy?
murderer?

would someone buy someone who murdered their child an all expenses paid trip to Alton Towers to fulfill their obligation. or would shaking their hand suffice?

Russ 11-02-2015 12:40

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
Off topic...

RichardCoulter 11-02-2015 17:14

Re: Ban racists from social media, anti-Semitism report says.
 
As usual, it's racism that is targetted for action. Historically, anti racist legislation has been introduced first and was stronger than legislation protecting other minorities.

Fortunately, the Equalities Act has ironed a lot of this out in the present day.

Anybody would think that racism was somehow worse than sexism, homophobia, disability discrimination etc.

I don't see why someone with racist views should be banned from social media, yet other bigots are allowed to remain.


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