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thenry 07-03-2013 15:27

Teenage Schoolgirl Stabbed To Death On Bus
 
R.I.P.

Quote:

Police have chased down and arrested a man suspected of stabbing to death 16-year-old Christina Edkins as she travelled to school.

http://news.sky.com/story/1061352/te...o-death-on-bus
*******! :mad:

Damien 09-03-2013 00:30

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He has been sectioned: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-21718547

tizmeinnit 09-03-2013 00:58

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I bet ATOS would have found him fit for work. This is a tragedy the darker side of untreated mental illness something a lot of people think they understand but very few actually do. How he has not been diagnosed or anything will wait and see if this was a sudden breakdown or something

Damien 09-03-2013 01:07

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Reports are still not that detailed and I am surprised at the lack of attention that has been paid to the case now that the guy has been sectioned, you'ld think it would be a main news item rather than hidden away. Makes me wonder if there is more detail to come.

From what has come out though it does sound like a sudden event. He didn't steal anything, he didn't know her, he apparently had no reason to stab her, and yet he got up and did so on a busy bus. It's madness.

Mr_love_monkey 09-03-2013 01:18

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I don't know how you could ever come to terms with that as a parent. It's senseless - atleast if it was an ex-boyfriend or something you could see that there was a 'reason' (how ever deranged) for it - but this - it's completely random, and if she'd been standing 2 steps further down the bus it wouldn't have happened to her. :(

tizmeinnit 09-03-2013 01:33

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35546103)
Reports are still not that detailed and I am surprised at the lack of attention that has been paid to the case now that the guy has been sectioned, you'ld think it would be a main news item rather than hidden away. Makes me wonder if there is more detail to come.

From what has come out though it does sound like a sudden event. He didn't steal anything, he didn't know her, he apparently had no reason to stab her, and yet he got up and did so on a busy bus. It's madness.

and todays award for stating the obvious :) Sudden psychotic episodes are not uncommon. I know a guy convinced a drug dealer moved in next door to get him and he went round trying to kick the door in intent on doing him serious harm

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 35546106)
I don't know how you could ever come to terms with that as a parent. It's senseless - atleast if it was an ex-boyfriend or something you could see that there was a 'reason' (how ever deranged) for it - but this - it's completely random, and if she'd been standing 2 steps further down the bus it wouldn't have happened to her. :(

it is such a waste of a young life. :( I doubt I would ever get over something like that.

Damien 09-03-2013 11:11

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 35546106)
I don't know how you could ever come to terms with that as a parent. It's senseless - atleast if it was an ex-boyfriend or something you could see that there was a 'reason' (how ever deranged) for it - but this - it's completely random, and if she'd been standing 2 steps further down the bus it wouldn't have happened to her. :(

Something went wrong in the brain. Unfortunately someone else's brain in this case. I guess it's akin to a wild animal lashing out or some other tragic random act of nature.

Damien 09-03-2013 11:11

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 35546106)
I don't know how you could ever come to terms with that as a parent. It's senseless - atleast if it was an ex-boyfriend or something you could see that there was a 'reason' (how ever deranged) for it - but this - it's completely random, and if she'd been standing 2 steps further down the bus it wouldn't have happened to her. :(

Something went wrong in the brain. Unfortunately someone else's brain in this case. I guess it's akin to a wild animal lashing out or some other tragic random act of nature.

martyh 09-03-2013 11:42

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I was stuck in traffic outside the Morrisons at the time that happened ,very weird knowing that something like that happened just few yards away .Very sad

mertle 09-03-2013 12:09

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So sad this to think family going through at this moment. But agree the mental healthcare in tatters in uk. Patients not getting help they need even when they cry for help. Something needs to be done.

In this case of this schoolgirl it maybe he was not being treated as it may been unknown mental health. Family really need answers.

Reminded me of the young woman who was pregnant stabbed to death by man who had mental health issues.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-patient.html

tizmeinnit 09-03-2013 12:15

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but you look at the various threads with ATOS in and you get members here think the mentally ill should just pull themselves together. Its the mentality of guys like bogof who personally attacked me when I admitted to my mental illness on this forum and others who have been staunch oppositions to mine and others side in these threads that has led to the stigma and total lack of understanding of the mentally ill.

Maybe someone in this guys family knew something was wrong but due to lack of understanding they did not realise how serious it was

martyh 09-03-2013 12:15

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Originally Posted by mertle (Post 35546195)
So sad this to think family going through at this moment. But agree the mental healthcare in tatters in uk. Patients not getting help they need even when they cry for help. Something needs to be done.

In this case of this schoolgirl it maybe he was not being treated as it may been unknown mental health. Family really need answers.

Reminded me of the young woman who was pregnant stabbed to death by man who had mental health issues.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-patient.html

Even if he was being treated this sort of thing will still happen ,it's hard to know what to do because for the number of people calling for these type of mentally ill patients to be locked away from society there are equally the same amount protesting that they are locked away

mertle 09-03-2013 13:21

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35546198)
Even if he was being treated this sort of thing will still happen ,it's hard to know what to do because for the number of people calling for these type of mentally ill patients to be locked away from society there are equally the same amount protesting that they are locked away

dont disagree its delicate situation like tizmeinnit says people some lack understanding. People dont often see the signs and dont act due lack of that understanding. Only experts even those can make decision wrong. I think some issues go back to the care in the comunity policy.

With care facilities closed, poor or operate on financial burden rather patient needs we wont solve it. Wonder how many out there even getting any help at all as they themselves dont see the signs.

In many cases we see mental patients quite fine in open world there those who aint its difficult situation. Dont agree locking up for sake of caution either. We likely always see isolated incidents sadly like clare and this young lady christina.

Unless in both there been failures of care and duty we have to accept them sadly. It just heartbreaking that it happens.

I feel for the family christina gold bless RIP

Damien 12-03-2013 14:26

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Hang on a moment, he will be charged with murder after all: http://news.sky.com/story/1063583/ma...irl-bus-murder

tizmeinnit 12-03-2013 14:54

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charged and named now


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