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Maggy 20-04-2012 21:16

Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans cleared, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17781842

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Footballer Ched Evans has been jailed for five years for raping a 19-year-old woman, while another player, Clayton McDonald, has been cleared.
Now I am confused. Both were accused of raping the same woman but one is acquitted and the other is found guilty.:confused:
I cannot find why one was found not guilty.What have I missed about this case?:confused:
Or is this just a badly reported court case?:confused:

NIco V 20-04-2012 21:19

Re: Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans jailed five years, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
Mcdonald went to the hotel with the lady. Evans came to the hotel later on...

Maggy 20-04-2012 21:21

Re: Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans jailed five years, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
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Originally Posted by NIco V (Post 35416995)
Mcdonald went to the hotel with the lady. Evans came to the hotel later on...

And how does this makes a difference?

Damien 20-04-2012 21:27

Re: Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans jailed five years, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
Guess we had to see the evidence, they did both admit to having sex with her however.

martyh 20-04-2012 21:31

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35416997)
And how does this makes a difference?

It shouldn't ,if he was watching Mcdonald and joined in then he must be guilty of something ,all i can think is that there must be some technicality or lack of evidence

Maggy 20-04-2012 21:40

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35417002)
It shouldn't ,if he was watching Mcdonald and joined in then he must be guilty of something ,all i can think is that there must be some technicality or lack of evidence

Well I've read several reports over a the days of the trial and I haven't spotted or heard anything.

budwieser 20-04-2012 21:56

Re: Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans jailed five years, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
I think they should have both been found guilty of the same crime. *******s.:mad::mad::td:

martyh 20-04-2012 22:17

Re: Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans jailed five years, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35417008)
Well I've read several reports over a the days of the trial and I haven't spotted or heard anything.

I know ,it is curious .They where both there and both took part so it is a mystery to me why one would get off and not the other :confused:

nomadking 20-04-2012 22:18

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She was visibly too drunk when going to the hotel with MacDonald. If she was too drunk with Evans, she was too drunk with MacDonald, and MacDonald was in the much better placed to judge her drunkenness. Weird decision, and scary as it seems to based on the whims of a jury rather than facts.

Osem 20-04-2012 22:27

Re: Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans jailed five years, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
I think there's something relevant which hasn't been reported.

nomadking 20-04-2012 22:36

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35417030)
I think there's something relevant which hasn't been reported.

Isn't there this thing that not only must Justice be done; it must also be seen to be done? All names(apart from the victim) have been reported. Any possible influence on a future jury on a related issue has therefore already happened. There would be no other reason not to report something.

Paul 20-04-2012 22:52

Re: Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans jailed five years, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
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Originally Posted by budwieser (Post 35417021)
I think they should have both been found guilty of the same crime. *******s.:mad::mad::td:

So you know as a fact that they were both guilty of the same crime then ?

I prefer people to be found guilty of what they did, not what you think they did ...

Osem 20-04-2012 23:00

Re: Footballer rape trial: Ched Evans jailed five years, Clayton McDonald cleared
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35417034)
Isn't there this thing that not only must Justice be done; it must also be seen to be done? All names(apart from the victim) have been reported. Any possible influence on a future jury on a related issue has therefore already happened. There would be no other reason not to report something.

I'm not suggesting that the information has been deliberately witheld, just that it hasn't been reported for some reason. Poor journalism perhaps?

martyh 20-04-2012 23:05

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35417048)
I'm not suggesting that the information has been deliberately witheld, just that it hasn't been reported for some reason. Poor journalism perhaps?

I agree ,and Maggie said as much in her post .It does seem that only half the story has been told

Osem 20-04-2012 23:18

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I hope this case serves to be an education to our young men and young women, many of whom don't seem to think very much about the possible consequences of their actions.


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