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Maggy 04-10-2011 11:23
Anti-Wall Street Protests Spreading to Cities Large and Small
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/us...es.html?ref=us

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A loose-knit populist campaign that started on Wall Street three weeks ago has spread to dozens of cities across the country, with protesters camped out in Los Angeles near City Hall, assembled before the Federal Reserve Bank in Chicago and marching through downtown Boston to rally against corporate greed, unemployment and the role of financial institutions in the economic crisis.
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With little organization and a reliance on Facebook, Twitter and Google groups to share methods, the Occupy Wall Street campaign, as the prototype in New York is called, has clearly tapped into a deep vein of anger, experts in social movements said, bringing longtime crusaders against globalization and professional anarchists together with younger people frustrated by poor job prospects.
More here.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15155046
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15160953

I look at this and note that mostly it's peaceful protest with mostly articulate and intelligent people and I look back at the looting and rioting of our summer and wonder at the difference.:erm:

I do wonder where it's going though with so many disparate reasons for protesting.

Derek 04-10-2011 12:04
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35309803)
I look at this and note that mostly it's peaceful protest with mostly articulate and intelligent people and I look back at the looting and rioting of our summer and wonder at the difference.:erm:
This is one reason.

US riot cop

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/10/69.jpg

UK riot cop

http://info-wars.org/wp-content/uplo...rotest-001.jpg

CS launchers, pepper spray and the ability to use them without the guardian and Jodi McIntyre getting airtime to moan about it vs an aluminium stick and years of inquests if you use it.

Maggy 04-10-2011 19:19
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But Derek there has only been one occasion in THREE weeks of the NYPD having to arrest anyone.

devilincarnate 04-10-2011 19:28
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They were just copying this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO_FVVHXEjM - RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE Sleep Now In The Fire

Dude111 05-10-2011 13:53
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
I do wonder where it's going though with so many disparate reasons for protesting.
I believe stuff is starting to fall apart Maggy and i fear this is just the beggining.. (I sense it will be WORSE than the riots you guys had)

Thankfully your riots were contained fairly soon after they started....

devilincarnate 15-10-2011 21:18
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Looks like it is now starting to spread?

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Riot police have fought militant protesters in Rome as the biggest of a series of global rallies against banks and politicians tipped into violence.

At least 70 people were injured, three of them seriously, as police fought masked rioters with tear gas, water cannon and batons.

Other protesters tried to stop the rioters as they attacked cars and businesses, marring a peaceful rally.

The day saw coordinated protests in cities worldwide, most of them small.

Inspired by the Occupy Wall St movement and Spain's "Indignants", demonstrators turned out from Asia to Europe and back to New York for an event organisers said on their website was aimed at initiating "global change".

"United in one voice, we will let politicians, and the financial elites they serve, know it is up to us, the people, to decide our future," they added.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15319924

Maggy 15-10-2011 21:23
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Sadly that's the risk..genuine peaceful but upset protesters get targeted by the absolute turds that just cannot just stage their own protests but have to hijack a peaceful one.:mad:

denphone 16-10-2011 08:08
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Yes l agree that everybody should have a right to protest peacefully but as Maggy said there are always these idiots who lie in wait just waiting to unleash their views and violence onto these protests and these idiots in my mind should be dealt with severely by the Authorities with no leniency shown.

Sirius 16-10-2011 11:24
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35316201)
Yes l agree that everybody should have a right to protest peacefully but as Maggy said there are always these idiots who lie in wait just waiting to unleash their views and violence onto these protests and these idiots in my mind should be dealt with severely by the Authorities with no leniency shown.
Problem is the protesters have to many rights and know them. The police have trouble dealing with them because the protesters rights take over and the press watch the police more than the protesters, Already this morning the words Kettling, Over reaction are being shouted from the roof tops. It does not matter that these SO CALLED protesters are out to create as much trouble as they can, But there RIGHTS let them get away with it. Meanwhile the RIGHTS of the building owners and the people trying to make a living in the area are ignored as usual and play second fiddle.

Maggy 16-10-2011 12:09
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35316250)
Problem is the protesters have to many rights and know them. The police have trouble dealing with them because the protesters rights take over and the press watch the police more than the protesters, Already this morning the words Kettling, Over reaction are being shouted from the roof tops. It does not matter that these SO CALLED protesters are out to create as much trouble as they can, But there RIGHTS let them get away with it. Meanwhile the RIGHTS of the building owners and the people trying to make a living in the area are ignored as usual and play second fiddle.
Please lets use the correct words Sirius.Some protesters were violent but not all and those who were not violent do have the right to continue to protest provided it's peaceful plus the police must act within the law when dealing with said protesters.Lets not lump all the bad protesters and the over zealous police in with those who are behaving legally..

I'm also concerned that you seem to think that ordinary citizens rights should disappear when people go out on the street and protest.Laws should not be partially applied depending on circumstances you will agree?Neither should civil rights and EVERYONE should be aware of their civil and human rights.You included.;)

Sirius 16-10-2011 13:04
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35316272)
Please lets use the correct words Sirius.Some protesters were violent but not all and those who were not violent do have the right to continue to protest provided it's peaceful plus the police must act within the law when dealing with said protesters.Lets not lump all the bad protesters and the over zealous police in with those who are behaving legally..

I'm also concerned that you seem to think that ordinary citizens rights should disappear when people go out on the street and protest.Laws should not be partially applied depending on circumstances you will agree?Neither should civil rights and EVERYONE should be aware of their civil and human rights.You included.;)
My views on protests are based on the protests we have seen over the last 12 months. The majority of them have turned violent. The right to protest i agree with fully, The right to disrupt people lives and property i don't agree with and that seems to be the way protest in this country now progress. They start with good intentions then the same groups turn up and make normal peoples lives a misery whilst there property is smashed or looted. I see these protest progressing in to trouble just the same as those over the last 12 months.

Citizens rights should not disappear but lets face it the protesters know how to manipulate there rights to ensure that they are not the ones in the press when they make everything go pear shaped.

Maggy 16-10-2011 13:07
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35316307)
My views on protests are based on the protests we have seen over the last 12 months. The majority of them have have turned violent. The right to protest i agree with fully, The right to disrupt people lives and property i don't agree with and that seems to be the way protest in this country now progress. They start with good intentions then the same groups turn up and make normal peoples lives a misery whilst there property is smashed or looted. I see these protest progressing in to trouble just the same as those over the last 12 months.
Give them a chance..you may be surprised.

denphone 16-10-2011 13:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35316307)
My views on protests are based on the protests we have seen over the last 12 months. The majority of them have have turned violent. The right to protest i agree with fully, The right to disrupt people lives and property i don't agree with and that seems to be the way protest in this country now progress. They start with good intentions then the same groups turn up and make normal peoples lives a misery whilst there property is smashed or looted. I see these protest progressing in to trouble just the same as those over the last 12 months.

Citizens right should not disappear but lets face it the protesters know how to manipulate there rights to ensure that they are not the ones in the press when they make everything go pear shaped.
l will second that.:tu:

squealy 16-10-2011 13:10
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Non-violent protests aren't considered as newsworthy. Which is perhaps why you haven't seen them.

Sirius 16-10-2011 13:21
Re: Anti-Wall Street Protests Spreading to Cities Large and Small
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35316311)
Give them a chance..you may be surprised.
Well lets see, but i will wait till more of the rent a mob arrive and see what happens then. Q are there many big shops near that site ???

---------- Post added at 12:21 ---------- Previous post was at 12:20 ----------

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Originally Posted by squealy (Post 35316315)
Non-violent protests aren't considered as newsworthy. Which is perhaps why you haven't seen them.
Well there has been enough of the violent ones this year that the public has had to pay the clean up on :mad:

As for the non violent we the public still have to pay for the policing of them.


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