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chambohambo 06-05-2011 21:57

Qam16/qpsk
 
Hi all, am normally on QAM16, noticed today though am on QPSK done several reboots and still on QPSK anyone kno why this could be? am not facing any problems.

pip08456 06-05-2011 21:59

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
Noise on your upstream. QPSK is more noise tolerant. They should be aware of it.

chambohambo 06-05-2011 22:01

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
So would they have turned off QAM16 until fixed and put everyone on QPSK?

Ignitionnet 06-05-2011 22:07

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
It's automatic.

General Maximus 06-05-2011 22:15

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
I noticed by accident that I was on qpsk for over a week back in February and truth be told, I didnt notice any performance degradation. I still got full upload speed and I think my download speed maxed out at 4.5mbit instead of 6 but it wasnt anything to moan about.

craigj2k12 06-05-2011 23:31

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
it happened to me the other bank holiday, upload speeds slowed to about 2 to 3 meg and pings were all over the place

pip08456 07-05-2011 10:53

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
You need a tech out to adjust your power level. That is the whole reason it is happening in your case.

Neo-Tech 07-05-2011 17:13

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
And if you're on the Dud I'm guessing:

ATDMA = QAM16
TDMA = QPSK?

Ignitionnet 07-05-2011 17:27

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
Nah. ATDMA = 6.4MHz channel width, TDMA = 3.2MHz channel width.

Neo-Tech 07-05-2011 18:02

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
So if you're switched to TDMA there's noise issues, or is this a completely different thing altogether?

Chrysalis 07-05-2011 19:18

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
What I say is subject to been wrong.

But generally interpret ATDMA as been docsis2, if there is a noise issue it will drop back to QPSK, on the superhub that will appear as ATDMA 10240kbit/sec. Still be the equivelent to QAM16 on docsis1 in terms of capacity. If no noise issue you should be seeing ATDMA 20480kbit/sec.

Docsis1 would show as TDMA 10240kb/src if no noise issue or TDMA 5120kbit/sec if a noise issue, the latter been QPSK on docsis1.

I have never heard of someone been rolled back to docsis1 due to noise it would just go to QPSK but stay on docsis2.

craigj2k12 07-05-2011 19:33

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35231281)
What I say is subject to been wrong.

But generally interpret ATDMA as been docsis2, if there is a noise issue it will drop back to QPSK, on the superhub that will appear as ATDMA 10240kbit/sec. Still be the equivelent to QAM16 on docsis1 in terms of capacity. If no noise issue you should be seeing ATDMA 20480kbit/sec.

Docsis1 would show as TDMA 10240kb/src if no noise issue or TDMA 5120kbit/sec if a noise issue, the latter been QPSK on docsis1.

I have never heard of someone been rolled back to docsis1 due to noise it would just go to QPSK but stay on docsis2.

he wont be put back to docsis 1, his area wont have the upload increase, and will be on docsis 1 in the first place

Ignitionnet 07-05-2011 21:44

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35231281)
What I say is subject to been wrong.

But generally interpret ATDMA as been docsis2, if there is a noise issue it will drop back to QPSK, on the superhub that will appear as ATDMA 10240kbit/sec. Still be the equivelent to QAM16 on docsis1 in terms of capacity. If no noise issue you should be seeing ATDMA 20480kbit/sec.

Docsis1 would show as TDMA 10240kb/src if no noise issue or TDMA 5120kbit/sec if a noise issue, the latter been QPSK on docsis1.

I have never heard of someone been rolled back to docsis1 due to noise it would just go to QPSK but stay on docsis2.

Correct. The secondary / fallback profile is still a 6.4MHz wide DOCSIS 2 channel, just the modulation changes.

They could actually have 3 profiles, 64QAM, 16QAM and QPSK for example, perhaps one to think about once plant upgrades are done.

chambohambo 07-05-2011 22:31

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
I am still on QPSK.

Cable Modem Downstream
Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 166
Downstream Frequency : 307000000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM256
Downstream Symbol Rate : 6952 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps12Increment17
Downstream Receive Power Level : 7.5 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 37.4 dB

Cable Modem Upstream
Upstream Lock : Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 1
Upstream Frequency : 35800000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QPSK
Upstream Symbol Rate : 5120 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 49.7 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 4

Efour 09-05-2011 17:58

Re: Qam16/qpsk
 
Would this explain why my PL is shocking for the past 3 days
im also on the QPSK crap now

20 mbit at POPLAR ubr London..

Its unplayable peak hours


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