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TheNorm 24-03-2011 05:25

Children under 10 issued shotguns
 
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Thirteen children under the age of 10 have been issued with shotgun certificates in the UK over the past three years.

The youngest child to be granted a licence was seven years old...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12840557

:erm:

Sparkle 24-03-2011 07:35

Re: Children under 10 issued shotguns
 
Well off families no doubt.
If they're already shooting, are supervised (and have to be by law until the age of 15), then I don't see any harm in it tbh. I'd be more concerned about whether or not hearing protection was being worn whilst shooting, as that's most likely where the harm could come from.

Kymmy 24-03-2011 07:49

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I first fired a weapon at the age of 8 (snub nose .357) though I was living in South Africa which has an American style gun culture.

As Sparkle says if taught right then I don't see it being a problem and I'd rather have someone certified than illegal.

Will21st 24-03-2011 19:50

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Originally Posted by Sparkle (Post 35198558)
Well off families no doubt.
If they're already shooting, are supervised (and have to be by law until the age of 15), then I don't see any harm in it tbh. I'd be more concerned about whether or not hearing protection was being worn whilst shooting, as that's most likely where the harm could come from.

Britain is gun paranoid.... :no:

Welshchris 24-03-2011 19:55

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from someone who has been shot by an airgun by some pillock that was bad enough.

I rather they were out of reach from all until atleast 18.

martyh 24-03-2011 20:07

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i think it's amazing what is legal for children ,drinking ,smoking and guns ,in my opinion all of which are for adults only

Kymmy 24-03-2011 20:18

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Originally Posted by Welshchris (Post 35198930)
from someone who has been shot by an airgun by some pillock that was bad enough.

I rather they were out of reach from all until atleast 18.

So because someone acts illegally you want to stop legal activities??

Welshchris 24-03-2011 20:57

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did i say that? I said that i think they should be kept out of the reach of under 18. All kids given a chance could do something daft with a gun and unfortunately some adults can be lax and leave them unsupervised. I just feel its a disaster waiting to happen. You will see that if one kid gets hurt or if the kid hurts someone else suddenly is society to blame or authority for issuing the licence. The parents would be claiming it was just some sort of "unforseen accident" where i feel someone of that age should not be left no where near firearms.

joglynne 24-03-2011 20:58

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I must admit I see nothing wrong with this as long as precautions are taken. I assume that the granting of the shotgun certificates will depend on the attitude/aptitude of the child and gun use would be restricted, under strict supervision and in a controlled environment.

Now if they just hand out the certificates with out safeguards and some little monster is allowed free access to a gun then I would be outraged.

martyh 24-03-2011 21:06

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Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35198972)
I must admit I see nothing wrong with this as long as precautions are taken. I assume that the granting of the shotgun certificates will depend on the attitude/aptitude of the child and gun use would be restricted, under strict supervision and in a controlled environment.

Now if they just hand out the certificates with out safeguards and some little monster is allowed free access to a gun then I would be outraged.

problem is though 10yr olds change quite a bit as they enter their teens ,what could have been a responsible 10yr old could be a little monster by 14-15 and by then it's too late if they already have a permit

Caff 24-03-2011 21:10

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Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 35198972)
I must admit I see nothing wrong with this as long as precautions are taken. I assume that the granting of the shotgun certificates will depend on the attitude/aptitude of the child and gun use would be restricted, under strict supervision and in a controlled environment.

Now if they just hand out the certificates with out safeguards and some little monster is allowed free access to a gun then I would be outraged.

Yup.
Controlled, regulated, secured, checked is the way.

Dude111 27-03-2011 08:23

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Originally Posted by Kymmy
I first fired a weapon at the age of 8 (snub nose .357) though I was living in South Africa which has an American style gun culture.

Well thankfully you dont come off an someone who is careless Kymmy,you are quite the opposite :)

However most people that age CANNOT HANDLE SUCH A THING!

Osem 27-03-2011 08:41

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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35198980)
problem is though 10yr olds change quite a bit as they enter their teens ,what could have been a responsible 10yr old could be a little monster by 14-15 and by then it's too late if they already have a permit

Quite, but it's really not difficult to buy an illegal gun far more suited to crime if you really want one. So far as I'm aware, the vast majority of gun crime isn't committed by people who held shotgun certificates when they were children. At least checks are done on those who are licenced to keep guns. There are no such controls over the feral youths, drugs runners and mobsters running around shooting up portions of our inner cities.

Hugh 27-03-2011 11:08

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 35200127)
Well thankfully you dont come off an someone who is careless Kymmy,you are quite the opposite :)

However most people that age CANNOT HANDLE SUCH A THING!

No need to shout......

One size doesn't fit all - if the access / control is sufficient, this should not be an issue; the kids don't get the licence, and are then given unsupervised access and use of the shotgun. It will be locked up when not in use, and when in use, supervised.

If we followed the same rules you are putting forward for driving, we wouldn't have Grand Prix champions like Lewis Hamilton et al, who started driving Karts in controlled and supervised competitions.

Welshchris 27-03-2011 11:58

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Hugh but a lot of kids wouldnt find it humerous to aim a go cart at someone at shoot at them wheather it be just the leg for fun to see a reaction. I was shot in the side by a kid with an air rifle who was under the supervision of his uncle who was in his 20s who also thought it was highly ammusing. I was walking through the local field which is a public right of way on a public path when it happened and police were involved.


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