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steveh 17-01-2011 12:36

TV overscan
 
So I've got a telly that lets me set overscan on for SD broadcasts (getting rid of the rough edges and using only the viewing area a SD TV would expect) and overscan off for HD broadcasts (so the pixels from the broadcast are exactly what the TV shows).

However, the V HD box upscales SD content to HD so the TV isn't able to choose the right setting. So either you get annoying rough edges to the screen on SD content or you lose picture on HD (including chopping the discreet BBC DOG on HD on-demand shows).

Am I missing something or is this just the way it is? Couldn't the V HD box output according to whether a broadcast is SD or HD, or cut the edges when it upscales SD content?

Stephen 17-01-2011 13:09

Re: TV overscan
 
Not sure what you mean?

SD upscaled on the V HD and V+ looks great on most channels.

steveh 17-01-2011 13:34

Re: TV overscan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35154005)
Not sure what you mean?

http://hd.engadget.com/2010/05/27/hd...all-tvs-do-it/

jb66 17-01-2011 13:38

Re: TV overscan
 
If you set the vhd to scart widescreen im sure the vhds HDMI slot broadcasts in 576p

TheDon 17-01-2011 13:56

Re: TV overscan
 
But then they're not going to get HD output as HD.

This is just the way it is, once the HD boxes are in HD mode everything coming out of them will be treated as HD and either overscanned or not. The only solution is manually switching picture modes on your TV.

Stephen 17-01-2011 14:05

Re: TV overscan
 
I have never noticed anything getting chopped off on my TV SD or HD.

andrewlutonuk 17-01-2011 14:34

Re: TV overscan
 
When Watching Come fly with me on Catch up tv, Saturday night Hd Version

If i have my TV set to 16:9 the BBC logo on the left top of screen is not displayed properly on the TV screen. a part of it disapears only showing the bottom part of the second B and C. I ndont know if the rest of the picture is displayed properly

If i put my TV in overscan the BBC logo will appear properly in the left hand corner.

andrewlutonuk

tweedie 17-01-2011 14:47

Re: TV overscan
 
Just put your TV on SCREEN FIT or JUST SCAN or whatever the relevant one is that way it will display the native resolution being output from the box

Stephen 17-01-2011 15:09

Re: TV overscan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewlutonuk (Post 35154032)
When Watching Come fly with me on Catch up tv, Saturday night Hd Version

If i have my TV set to 16:9 the BBC logo on the left top of screen is not displayed properly on the TV screen. a part of it disapears only showing the bottom part of the second B and C. I ndont know if the rest of the picture is displayed properly

If i put my TV in overscan the BBC logo will appear properly in the left hand corner.

andrewlutonuk

What is the setting on your V+? 720/1080 or 720/1080wide?

andrewlutonuk 17-01-2011 15:55

Re: TV overscan
 
My Setting is 1080 not 1080 wide

As Tweedie says puting my TV on JUST SCAN i BBC logo on top left appears properly

on having it set on 16:9 it does not

Samsung V+

andrewlutonuk

jobbie8 17-01-2011 17:57

Re: TV overscan
 
I first noticed the BBC logo on top left being cut off over the christmas hoildays. It was fine before then. Maybe the BBC have moved the logo a little?

tweedie 17-01-2011 18:32

Re: TV overscan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewlutonuk (Post 35154075)
My Setting is 1080 not 1080 wide

As Tweedie says puting my TV on JUST SCAN i BBC logo on top left appears properly

on having it set on 16:9 it does not

Samsung V+

andrewlutonuk

Set it to 1080 wide aswell

Lew 17-01-2011 22:08

Re: TV overscan
 
That would just stretch 4:3 SD programmes.

looper35uk 17-01-2011 22:55

Re: TV overscan
 
As Tweedy says, set your stb for 1080 wide, all programmes will be shown in their original aspect ratio.

TheDon 17-01-2011 23:31

Re: TV overscan
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by looper35uk (Post 35154261)
As Tweedy says, set your stb for 1080 wide, all programmes will be shown in their original aspect ratio.

No, they won't.

All programmes will be stretched to 16:9 if you do that, nothing original about that. Leave it off wide and 4:3 content gets shown in 4:3, and 16:9 gets shown in 16:9.

That's not the issue the op is having anyway.

To explain as many people seem to not be getting it, on SD the top few lines are often filled with junk which is encoded data for closed captioning and teletext. If you have your TV set to just scan (or 1:1 pixel mapping or whatever it calls it) you'll see this encoded data on the top line of pixels flashing away, the way to hide it is to turn overscan on (because all SD tvs were assumed to have overscan as it was in the nature of how CRTs work).
Turning overscan on when your box is set to HD though will not just hide this unwanted data, it will also crop the picture on a HD image that doesn't need overscan.


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