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crimeRhyme 18-10-2010 11:49

should drug addicts be sterilised ?
 
should drugs addicts be sterilised

project projection has done a deal,
£200 to addict for a sterilisation is real.
this is so controversial this debate will flame,
is it morally right, is this country loosing its shame.
i can see both sides and are in the middle,
but will neutral be the ending riddle.
yes its right not to bring a life to be in pain,
because the baby will not be priority, it will be the heroin or crack cocaine.
there will of course be the ones that only see the cash,
get high not realising a family hope will crash.
are these people deserving of this scar,
should a drug free and childless life be put at a ultimate far.
for what ever reasons, drugs did enter there world and disrupt,
from the middle, the Joe is thinking to raise a little boy or girl, you are corrupt.


(the joe is back anyone on cable miss me lol)

Stuart 18-10-2010 11:50

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Thread title corrected.

Damien 18-10-2010 11:59

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Please remember to include a link so others can comment on the story.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11545519

Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC
Drug addicts across the UK are being offered money to be sterilised by an American charity.

Project Prevention is offering to pay £200 to any drug user in London, Glasgow, Bristol, Leicester and parts of Wales who agrees to be operated on.


Chris 18-10-2010 12:06

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The joe is back and we're all a-quiver;
What hard-hitting poetry will he deliver?
But something's wrong with his streetwise sound
And I'm all cut up over what I found.
Just two little things are necessary:
Some viable scansion and a dictionary.

Derek 18-10-2010 12:19

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Full sterilisation doesn't get my vote but making some form of contraception mandatory for female drug addicts on methadone would be a step in the right direction.

Julian 18-10-2010 12:59

Re: should drug addicts be sterilised ?
 
There was a young man called Jack
Addicted to drugs such as crack
There were numerous calls
To cut of his balls
It won't stop him needing his smack.

Hugh 18-10-2010 13:45

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Should drug addicts be sterilised
was the question asked by joe
but alcohol and tobacco are drugs
to which people cannot say "No"
So this question that you ask
just sets us up for another task,
should we cut off the goolies
of smoking and drinking bullies...

Gary L 18-10-2010 14:07

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Roses are red,
violets are blue.
drugs do your head in,
and so do you.

Juo 18-10-2010 14:39

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This story actually makes me feel a bit sick, I think anyone involved with "Project Prevention" should be sterilised.

Derek 18-10-2010 14:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Juo (Post 35110380)
This story actually makes me feel a bit sick, I think anyone involved with "Project Prevention" should be sterilised.

It does have some benefits. Brining children into an already chaotic lifestyle isn't exactly the best idea.

On the downside something permanent does pretty much reduce the incentive for an addict to get themselves clean.

Juo 18-10-2010 14:45

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Its obvious to anyone that something is wrong with this 'solution', its an insultingly feeble amount that will get the users a fix or two in return for a life chaining operating, thats why it ****es me off that shes basically waving a carrot in front of them and the users are in no position to make a logical decision they are addicted to herion or crack and shes prying on this weakness to push her own agenda.

I think shes doing more damage than good, how can help you reabilite someone after you've dehumanized them?

Derek 18-10-2010 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Juo (Post 35110384)
Its obvious to anyone that something is wrong with this 'solution', its an insulting feeble amount that will get the users a fix or two in return of a life chaining operating, I think shes doing more damage than good, how can help you reabilite someone after you've dehumanized them?

It's not perfect but neither is allowing drug addicts to bring children into the world which probably won't be looked after correctly, are exposed to far more risk than they should and quite possibly will end up in care.

Juo 18-10-2010 14:53

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Then the solution is go after the root course of the problem. Of course its really sad to see the baby being born already addicted to drugs but maybe rather than saying lets sterilise the parents (a short term solution) we should step back a bit and actually try to find a more long term solution, like, I dont know if everyone had a better quality of life people wouldn't feel the need to turn to drugs in the first place or just educating people more about drugs.

I dont believe a war on drugs (American style) would necessary work, just more information and help. (To be clear help is not sterilising someone).

I mean if you are going to support sterilising a group of people you dont have far to go before you will support doing far worse things to them.

TheDaddy 18-10-2010 15:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35110382)
It does have some benefits. Brining children into an already chaotic lifestyle isn't exactly the best idea.

On the downside something permanent does pretty much reduce the incentive for an addict to get themselves clean.

Darn right it has benefits, smack whilst destroying the rest of the body seems to work wonders for sperm, most of the lads I worked with appeared to have loads of kids, just a further extension of their irresponsible lifestyle.

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Originally Posted by Juo (Post 35110386)
I dont believe a war on drugs (American style) would necessary work,

They say Vietnam was an unwinable war, the war on drugs is the true definition and the sad thing is it was a war we never needed to fight.

Stuart 18-10-2010 15:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Juo (Post 35110384)
I think shes doing more damage than good, how can help you reabilite someone after you've dehumanized them?

Bit of a strong statement there. What about people who are sterilised for other reasons (be they medical or voluntary)? Are they dehumanised too?

I have to admit, I am not sure about this charity. While I can actually see the logic in what they are doing (after all, it could prevent a lot of children having to suffer poverty), I can also see a downside. The downside is, of course, what is the addict going to go through if they do get clean and should be in a position to both want and care for a baby properly.


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