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Big Red 20-07-2010 20:17

VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Having recently emailed Neil Berkett and surprisingly getting a reply direct from Neil Berkett and a member from the Executive Office call me with regards to the VIP Package.

I asked the question around why VIP is not best of the rest like it was when it first came out and also asked the question the reason behind the £7 HD per charge

VIP Package - we discussed things like XXL (50mb) broadband coming under the VIP package, Picture Box and 1 Free Film Flex Movie each month and the future HD channel line up - She said that all of the above a more has being discussed and that decisions have already being made by Neil Berkett about the VIP package and that we should expect a new and improved VIP Package with the possibility of VIP+ which would cover Prem HD channels and much more.

One thing She was 100% on and was happy to state is that VM will offer all Non Prem HD channels to XL/VIP customer at no extra cost, I asked numbers in terms of channels and a further 10-15 by end of 2010.

£7 Prem HD Charge - I have no problems with this charge and as I have stated before its down to personal choice but I asked why VM needed to charge.
She stated that as part of the VMTV sale VM stated that no deal will be agreed unless Sky HD Channel were part of this deal - Sky did not want to give this away, apart from the fact that VMTV was costly to keep running VM saw fit to sell these channels and also get Sky's HD channels which VM have being after for a number of years.
She went on is saying that Sky wanted a % of all income from HD charges to VM customers and that the first offer is Sky recommend a £12 charge for HD channels.

After a number of months this was reduced to £7 and a 10+ Year carriage deal agreed along with sale of VMTV.

She did not want to give too much away but I kind of got the feeling I was on the right lines stating that Sky get around £4-£5 per HD package, with the rest covering VM's cost and hey they are here to make some profit.

Sky Sports 3/4 HD - I asked the question around why VM are not offering these channels, She said we have all seen the Sky's the only place to get all 5 Sports HD channels adds etc, Sky feel a treat from VM and now that VM can offer Full HD services they have to keep something back.

All in all I'm taking plus points - VIP package has already being looked at for improvement - so watch this space and the fact VM can offer Sky's Prem HD channels at a small £7 fee is a good deal in my eyes even though we all know Sky have got there finger in the pie on this one.

I have asked my insider to keep his ear to the ground on these changes.

mattpafc 20-07-2010 20:49

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Thanks for the heads up on that,sounds promising.


If they took talk international and mobile option off VIP which I never use.

And added caller display and Premium HD channels I believe a lot of people would prefer that because I for one never use the international option and hardly ever the mobile reduced rate option.

Dave42 20-07-2010 20:51

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35059598)
Having recently emailed Neil Berkett and surprisingly getting a reply direct from Neil Berkett and a member from the Executive Office call me with regards to the VIP Package.

I asked the question around why VIP is not best of the rest like it was when it first came out and also asked the question the reason behind the £7 HD per charge

VIP Package - we discussed things like XXL (50mb) broadband coming under the VIP package, Picture Box and 1 Free Film Flex Movie each month and the future HD channel line up - She said that all of the above a more has being discussed and that decisions have already being made by Neil Berkett about the VIP package and that we should expect a new and improved VIP Package with the possibility of VIP+ which would cover Prem HD channels and much more.

One thing She was 100% on and was happy to state is that VM will offer all Non Prem HD channels to XL/VIP customer at no extra cost, I asked numbers in terms of channels and a further 10-15 by end of 2010.

£7 Prem HD Charge - I have no problems with this charge and as I have stated before its down to personal choice but I asked why VM needed to charge.
She stated that as part of the VMTV sale VM stated that no deal will be agreed unless Sky HD Channel were part of this deal - Sky did not want to give this away, apart from the fact that VMTV was costly to keep running VM saw fit to sell these channels and also get Sky's HD channels which VM have being after for a number of years.
She went on is saying that Sky wanted a % of all income from HD charges to VM customers and that the first offer is Sky recommend a £12 charge for HD channels.

After a number of months this was reduced to £7 and a 10+ Year carriage deal agreed along with sale of VMTV.

She did not want to give too much away but I kind of got the feeling I was on the right lines stating that Sky get around £4-£5 per HD package, with the rest covering VM's cost and hey they are here to make some profit.

Sky Sports 3/4 HD - I asked the question around why VM are not offering these channels, She said we have all seen the Sky's the only place to get all 5 Sports HD channels adds etc, Sky feel a treat from VM and now that VM can offer Full HD services they have to keep something back.

All in all I'm taking plus points - VIP package has already being looked at for improvement - so watch this space and the fact VM can offer Sky's Prem HD channels at a small £7 fee is a good deal in my eyes even though we all know Sky have got there finger in the pie on this one.

I have asked my insider to keep his ear to the ground on these changes.

if they put 50mb in vip it sure will make up for the £7 charge for the hd i have signed up for the hd

dan dority 20-07-2010 20:53

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35059635)
if they put 50mb in vip it sure will make up for the £7 charge for the hd i have signed up for the hd

agreed :Yes:

ollie2001 20-07-2010 20:54

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Agree with Mattpafc...

I've already had to tag on 50mb to my VIP package and was a bit gutted to hear they plan on charging an extra £7 PER box you want to view the already expensive Sky Movies and Sports in HD. So that would be £14 extra a month for me...if I could scrap international and mobile phone packages it would make it a little more bearable.

Any idea's when these will be announced?

Big Red 20-07-2010 21:01

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ollie2001 (Post 35059638)
Agree with Mattpafc...

I've already had to tag on 50mb to my VIP package and was a bit gutted to hear they plan on charging an extra £7 PER box you want to view the already expensive Sky Movies and Sports in HD. So that would be £14 extra a month for me...if I could scrap international and mobile phone packages it would make it a little more bearable.

Any idea's when these will be announced?

She said its in motion and that offical news will be released within 2 months so say by end of Sept we should have a new and improved VIP package

But if I hear anything before I will post

Dave42 20-07-2010 21:03

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35059645)
She said its in motion and that offical news will be released within 2 months so say by end of Sept we should have a new and improved VIP package

But if I hear anything before I will post

thanks for the good work big red

jab1990 20-07-2010 21:32

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
That is great news, but it is no more than we deserve as we didn't get any price reductions for sky premium channels.

Mikey1981 20-07-2010 21:35

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
thanks.

fingers firmly crossed.

mot12 20-07-2010 21:43

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35059598)
Having recently emailed Neil Berkett and surprisingly getting a reply direct from Neil Berkett and a member from the Executive Office call me with regards to the VIP Package.

I asked the question around why VIP is not best of the rest like it was when it first came out and also asked the question the reason behind the £7 HD per charge

VIP Package - we discussed things like XXL (50mb) broadband coming under the VIP package, Picture Box and 1 Free Film Flex Movie each month and the future HD channel line up - She said that all of the above a more has being discussed and that decisions have already being made by Neil Berkett about the VIP package and that we should expect a new and improved VIP Package with the possibility of VIP+ which would cover Prem HD channels and much more.

One thing She was 100% on and was happy to state is that VM will offer all Non Prem HD channels to XL/VIP customer at no extra cost, I asked numbers in terms of channels and a further 10-15 by end of 2010.

£7 Prem HD Charge - I have no problems with this charge and as I have stated before its down to personal choice but I asked why VM needed to charge.
She stated that as part of the VMTV sale VM stated that no deal will be agreed unless Sky HD Channel were part of this deal - Sky did not want to give this away, apart from the fact that VMTV was costly to keep running VM saw fit to sell these channels and also get Sky's HD channels which VM have being after for a number of years.
She went on is saying that Sky wanted a % of all income from HD charges to VM customers and that the first offer is Sky recommend a £12 charge for HD channels.

After a number of months this was reduced to £7 and a 10+ Year carriage deal agreed along with sale of VMTV.

She did not want to give too much away but I kind of got the feeling I was on the right lines stating that Sky get around £4-£5 per HD package, with the rest covering VM's cost and hey they are here to make some profit.

Sky Sports 3/4 HD - I asked the question around why VM are not offering these channels, She said we have all seen the Sky's the only place to get all 5 Sports HD channels adds etc, Sky feel a treat from VM and now that VM can offer Full HD services they have to keep something back.

All in all I'm taking plus points - VIP package has already being looked at for improvement - so watch this space and the fact VM can offer Sky's Prem HD channels at a small £7 fee is a good deal in my eyes even though we all know Sky have got there finger in the pie on this one.

I have asked my insider to keep his ear to the ground on these changes.

The 10-15 channels i take it these are all HD and is the 10-15 including or excluding the 12 sky sports ad movie Hd ones. ?

alwaysabear 20-07-2010 21:49

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35059598)
Having recently emailed Neil Berkett and surprisingly getting a reply direct from Neil Berkett and a member from the Executive Office call me with regards to the VIP Package.

I asked the question around why VIP is not best of the rest like it was when it first came out and also asked the question the reason behind the £7 HD per charge

VIP Package - we discussed things like XXL (50mb) broadband coming under the VIP package, Picture Box and 1 Free Film Flex Movie each month and the future HD channel line up - She said that all of the above a more has being discussed and that decisions have already being made by Neil Berkett about the VIP package and that we should expect a new and improved VIP Package with the possibility of VIP+ which would cover Prem HD channels and much more.

One thing She was 100% on and was happy to state is that VM will offer all Non Prem HD channels to XL/VIP customer at no extra cost, I asked numbers in terms of channels and a further 10-15 by end of 2010.

£7 Prem HD Charge - I have no problems with this charge and as I have stated before its down to personal choice but I asked why VM needed to charge.
She stated that as part of the VMTV sale VM stated that no deal will be agreed unless Sky HD Channel were part of this deal - Sky did not want to give this away, apart from the fact that VMTV was costly to keep running VM saw fit to sell these channels and also get Sky's HD channels which VM have being after for a number of years.
She went on is saying that Sky wanted a % of all income from HD charges to VM customers and that the first offer is Sky recommend a £12 charge for HD channels.

After a number of months this was reduced to £7 and a 10+ Year carriage deal agreed along with sale of VMTV.

She did not want to give too much away but I kind of got the feeling I was on the right lines stating that Sky get around £4-£5 per HD package, with the rest covering VM's cost and hey they are here to make some profit.

Sky Sports 3/4 HD - I asked the question around why VM are not offering these channels, She said we have all seen the Sky's the only place to get all 5 Sports HD channels adds etc, Sky feel a treat from VM and now that VM can offer Full HD services they have to keep something back.

All in all I'm taking plus points - VIP package has already being looked at for improvement - so watch this space and the fact VM can offer Sky's Prem HD channels at a small £7 fee is a good deal in my eyes even though we all know Sky have got there finger in the pie on this one.

I have asked my insider to keep his ear to the ground on these changes.

That it is pretty much how my conversation went when I was called by a member of the CEO 's team this afternoon, although no time frame was mentioned.

Big Red 20-07-2010 21:50

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mot12 (Post 35059669)
The 10-15 channels i take it these are all HD and is the 10-15 including or excluding the 12 sky sports ad movie Hd ones. ?

Yes all HD and are on top of the 12 Sky Sports/Movies

jagsman 20-07-2010 21:51

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mot12 (Post 35059669)
The 10-15 channels i take it these are all HD and is the 10-15 including or excluding the 12 sky sports ad movie Hd ones. ?

reading the OP, it says a "further" 10-15 channels. So I think that these are extra channels, probably including SKY 1 HD, Sky arts HD, Sky News HD and hopefully SKY Sports News HD, ESPN America HD.

Big Red 20-07-2010 21:59

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35059672)
That it is pretty much how my conversation went when I was called by a member of the CEO 's team this afternoon, although no time frame was mentioned.

I get the feeling that VM/Neil Berkett have being bombarded with emails from VIP customer around both VIP package and £7 HD Fee - the good thing is the same thing is coming out of VM and we await an improved VIP package

kgollop 20-07-2010 22:04

Re: VIP/VIP+ New and Improved VIP Package
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 35059680)
I get the feeling that VM/Neil Berkett have being bombarded with emails from VIP customer around both VIP package and £7 HD Fee - the good thing is the same thing is coming out of VM and we await an improved VIP package

Nice work Red, I'd just emailed him tonight too before I saw your post. Keep the pressure up VIPs :D


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