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Gary L 13-05-2010 14:28

Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
I was reading a story about a girls mother refused her daughter to wear a scarf at the schools visit to a mosque. claiming "she did not want her daughter to 'dress as a Muslim'"

in one of the comments someone asked about it happening the other way around.

punky 13-05-2010 14:31

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
If it is compulsory, then why the permission slip?

Gary L 13-05-2010 14:41

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
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Originally Posted by punky (Post 35020749)
If it is compulsory, then why the permission slip?

Good point.
I was watching a prison documentary thing the other day and a prisoner who topped himself had little notes he wrote. the one said something about 'visit church'

the prison officer woman commented something about 'he would have to do that anyway'

is it compulsory to attend church in prison?

Hugh 13-05-2010 14:42

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
Strange - when I used to attend Catholic Church in Glasgow, it was expected that females covered their heads with a hat or a scarf.

What's the difference?

Maggy 13-05-2010 14:45

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
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Saaf_laandon_mo 13-05-2010 14:55

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35020752)
Strange - when I used to attend Catholic Church in Glasgow, it was expected that females covered their heads with a hat or a scarf.

What's the difference?

I also recall seing the Queen and Princess Di put on a head covering when going to a mosque. Its called being repectful. Tourists all over the world do the same when entering a mosque.

As for 'dressing like a muslim' comment it goes to show how stupid some people are to they are going to think putting on a head scarf is dressing like a muslim.

As for happening the other way round - I am assuming the question is would a muslim girl who wears a head scarve remove it if she went to a church? I didnt know that removing a head covering is a pre-requisite of church attendance, or a Christian requirement. Can someone correct me if I am wrong?

Xaccers 13-05-2010 14:57

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
The schools response was ott, no teachers present to look after the kids? What? Was this an entire school outing? Could they not participate in other classes in other years?
Why not agree that if the parents want their children to miss out on the oppertunity, then they can be given home/course work to be completed by the next day and are the responsibility of the petty parents.

As for your other question Gary, yes, Muslim children do visit churches and synagogues as part of their education.

Gary L 13-05-2010 14:58

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 35020760)
As for happening the other way round - I am assuming the question is would a muslim girl who wears a head scarve remove it if she went to a church?

It wasn't about the scarf thing the other way around. it was "Why aren't muslim school children taken round Catholic Churches or Christian Churches as part of their education?"

Nugget 13-05-2010 15:04

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35020763)
It wasn't about the scarf thing the other way around. it was "Why aren't muslim school children taken round Catholic Churches or Christian Churches as part of their education?"

All of the non-Christian kids (not just Muslims) were taken around churches when I was at school - I think the curriculum had it down as 'equal opportunities boredom' :shrug:

NoKnowledge 13-05-2010 15:06

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Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
I did and I had muslims, christians, indians and all kinds in our class.

We visited a mosque, churches, a synagogue and temples of all kinds. I cannot remmeber if it required a permission slip though.

Maggy 13-05-2010 15:07

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Originally Posted by NoKnowledge (Post 35020769)
I did and I had muslims, christians, indians and all kinds in our class.

We visited a mosque, churches, a synagogue and temples of all kinds. I cannot remmeber if it required a permission slip though.

ALL school trips require parental permission.:)

nomadking 13-05-2010 15:08

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 35020761)
The schools response was ott, no teachers present to look after the kids? What? Was this an entire school outing? Could they not participate in other classes in other years?
Why not agree that if the parents want their children to miss out on the oppertunity, then they can be given home/course work to be completed by the next day and are the responsibility of the petty parents.

As for your other question Gary, yes, Muslim children do visit churches and synagogues as part of their education.

But are they required to do so, and to wear such things as crosses or simply make the sign of the cross in a catholic church?

Gary L 13-05-2010 15:08

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 35020761)
As for your other question Gary, yes, Muslim children do visit churches and synagogues as part of their education.

I found this.
When a Muslim enters a church he/she must recite the SHAHADA
'ASHHADU AL- LA ILAHA IL-LAL-LAHU
WA ASHHADU AN-NA MUHAMMADAN
ABDUHU WARASULUH'

Once it is said, a Muslim is free to enter the church.


Do the kids have to do this?

Saaf_laandon_mo 13-05-2010 15:10

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35020763)
It wasn't about the scarf thing the other way around. it was "Why aren't muslim school children taken round Catholic Churches or Christian Churches as part of their education?"

My daughter goes to an Islamic faith school. They follow the RE sylabus that is practised in all schools in the borough. If this entails going to different places of worship to have a look, then yes they will go. She hasn't has yet (she is only 5) but I am aware that older students have visited non-Islamic places of worship.

Nugget 13-05-2010 15:10

Re: Do Muslim kids visit churches as part of their education?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35020772)
I found this.
When a Muslim enters a church he/she must recite the SHAHADA
'ASHHADU AL- LA ILAHA IL-LAL-LAHU
WA ASHHADU AN-NA MUHAMMADAN
ABDUHU WARASULUH'

Once it is said, a Muslim is free to enter the church.


Do the kids have to do this?

Well, the non-Muslim kids wouldn't have to ;)


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