Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35012962)

You need separate areas for different clans or trouble is guaranteed.

Originally Posted by DaiNasty (Post 35012981)

Sounds like a job for the NuLabor thought police. Definitely racist, discriminatory or judgmental.. Oh how I'd love to see them tackle that hot potato.

Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35012962)

The majority of travellers are fine. We have a large number in this area which also has one of the lowest crime rates in the country. However even our local lot would turn their noses up at tinkers (their classification). Problem is there are not enough pitches available for the number of travellers in the right area. You need separate areas for different clans or trouble is guaranteed. One of our wealthiest villages has several privately owned pitches and no trouble. The problem is with a few trouble makers and then unfairly tarring them all with the same brush.

This village has done the right thing - for them. The right thing for everyone, is more pitches in the right areas where some control can be gained. The nimbys are in many cases making things worse rather than better .

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35013091)

They install utilities... hrmm... I would suspect 'steal' is a better word given that only utilities companies can actually install them.

Needs a change in the law if the police can't stop it. Ridiculous the suggestion that they can go onto land they don't own and tarmac it like this. I refuse to believe it's legal for them to tap the electricity and water supplies like this. If it is legal it's crazy.

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Interesting that you seem to think you know the right thing for everyone.

Being travellers surely they can travel? I would have thought that if they can afford to come into an area with heavy machinery, attack the countryside and steal utilities they can afford to rent pitches where they are available.

If there are none available where they want to be they'll have to do what the rest of us do if we can't live where we want to and go somewhere else. It's not society's job to accommodate the need for 'clans' to live apart and again it doesn't excuse their actions. I can't just start building a house somewhere because I want to live there.

One rule for one and one for others isn't acceptable, but it's what you are suggesting, that society shape itself around their wants and desires. Doesn't work that way. This ignoring that what they are trying to do is quite simply illegal.

The scenario you describe seems to work only for travellers, where everyone else puts themselves out for their benefit and to cater to their needs.

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35013105)

The villagers will regret this when they're left with no pegs to hang out their clothes.;)