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Russ 27-03-2010 09:50

If ever you needed proof....
 
...that MPs live nowhere near the real world, here it is...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8588803.stm

Quote:

Mr Hogg went on to say an MP's annual salary of £65,000 was far too low.
He said he wanted it increased by about 50% to attract people of the right calibre into politics.
Phew, imagine how worse off the NHS would be if they needed to attract nurses "of the right calibre".

Maybe he wants the increase to cover all those extra little perks they're missing out on in the wake of the expenses scandal?

zing_deleted 27-03-2010 10:05

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Attract people of the right calibre? greedy, power hungry, narcissistic liars are hardly the right calibre

Welshchris 27-03-2010 10:22

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Russ this isnt the first MP to be caught out saying this if u remember last year Alun Duncan MP was recorded on Film stating MPs have to servive on petty handouts which he later tried to state he was quoted out of context and didnt mean it lol.

Horace 27-03-2010 10:38

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Peanuts/Monkeys (or corruption).

Toto 27-03-2010 10:50

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Quote:

He said he wanted it increased by about 50% to attract people of the right calibre into politics.
So by the "right calibre" he means money grabbing B******S?

Maggy 27-03-2010 11:13

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Okay I'm asking nicely that people remember the T&Cs about swearing and not starring out letters to beat the swear filter..

Maribel 27-03-2010 11:35

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34988454)
...that MPs live nowhere near the real world, here it is...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8588803.stm



Phew, imagine how worse off the NHS would be if they needed to attract nurses "of the right calibre".

Maybe he wants the increase to cover all those extra little perks they're missing out on in the wake of the expenses scandal?

Hmmm... two things

1. Nurses, we could with more of them and less managers at NHS

2. You have to pay, in order to get good people. 65K gets you a monkey in London, don't forget you (=Daily Telegraph etc) removed the perks... 50% increase is reasonable

Have you tried to buy a flat in Westminster/Chelsea? It ain't Port Talbot mate!

Toto 27-03-2010 11:36

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 34988520)
Okay I'm asking nicely that people remember the T&Cs about swearing and not starring out letters to beat the swear filter..

Sorry Maggy, but I think my point was well made :)

Russ 27-03-2010 11:45

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maribel (Post 34988544)
Hmmm... two things

1. Nurses, we could with more of them and less managers at NHS

Agreed - although aren't we lucky we don't need nurses "of the right calibre" otherwise we'd need to pay them a hell of a lot more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maribel (Post 34988544)
2. You have to pay, in order to get good people. 65K gets you a monkey in London, don't forget you (=Daily Telegraph etc) removed the perks... 50% increase is reasonable

Can't you see the ignorance in moaning you need a 50% pay rise when millions are out of work, especially when you're part of an establishment which has abused its expenses rights and had people moan about it now being 'rations'? Not all MPs are from London funnily enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maribel (Post 34988544)
Have you tried to buy a flat in Westminster/Chelsea? It ain't Port Talbot mate!

So you rent one and legitimately claim it back via expenses. I don't see your point.

TheDaddy 27-03-2010 13:44

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Hogg (appropriate name for some one with a snout in the trough) can have his 50% pay rise providing we get rid of 50% of MP's.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zing (Post 34988460)
Attract people of the right calibre? greedy, power hungry, narcissistic liars are hardly the right calibre

Anyone found to be actually wanting the job should automatically be excluded from the post.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maribel (Post 34988544)
2. You have to pay, in order to get good people. 65K gets you a monkey in London,

Err no it doesn't.

Welshchris 27-03-2010 15:15

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Russ im thinking of Standing for South Wales candidate for the Monster Raving Looney Party, do i have ur vote? lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maribel (Post 34988544)
Hmmm... two things

1. Nurses, we could with more of them and less managers at NHS

2. You have to pay, in order to get good people. 65K gets you a monkey in London, don't forget you (=Daily Telegraph etc) removed the perks... 50% increase is reasonable

Have you tried to buy a flat in Westminster/Chelsea? It ain't Port Talbot mate!

Their rent /mortgage can be claimed back in expenses anyway + living allowances so at the end of the day £65k will get them a lot in London + a lot of these MPs live outside of London and stay in Hotels when there and claim expenses for that usually at places like the Savoy at Tax payers expenses.

Hugh 27-03-2010 15:25

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Far be it from me to defend MPs, but they don't stay at the Savoy on expenses; the annual overnight allowance, if spent on hotels, would only be about £120 per night, which doesn't get you much in London through the week.

arcamalpha2004 27-03-2010 15:31

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
http://www.channel4.com/news/article...+claim/3287067

Welshchris 27-03-2010 16:19

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34988723)
Far be it from me to defend MPs, but they don't stay at the Savoy on expenses; the annual overnight allowance, if spent on hotels, would only be about £120 per night, which doesn't get you much in London through the week.

OK maybe not the savoy but these people are usually only in London a weekend or a few days at a time for Parilment

Parlimentry Green Book April 2009 states in Section 2.1.3 under appropriate expenditure....

Hotel Accomedation in Either London or the Constituancy is limited to £1250 a month which if they are only there for a few days which is usual can get a pretty decient room at somewhere like The Kingsway hall on Covent Garden where i have stayed which is 4* or even a Hilton 4* Hotel.

+ ontop of that they can claim a flat rate of £25 per night for each night away from home or parlimentry business.

Hugh 27-03-2010 16:25

Re: If ever you needed proof....
 
chris, they are in London through the week for 3-4 days, and back at the constituency at the weekend (usually) - 1250 per month for about 12 days a month (minimum) is about £100 a night - I stay in London about 1 night per month, and I am pushed to get anything decent for my allowance, which is £115 per night.


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