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Russ 16-02-2009 11:03

Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7888301.stm

If a link to terrorism can be proven, taking a photo of police officers could be illegal...

Delta Whiskey 16-02-2009 11:16

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
It's madness, I could be in trouble for taking a photo like this one from last week.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/...aa6b838d_b.jpg

bopdude 16-02-2009 11:53

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta Whiskey (Post 34734732)
It's madness, I could be in trouble for taking a photo like this one from last week.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3298/...aa6b838d_b.jpg

Only if your linked to terrorism mate, your not, are you ?

Horace 16-02-2009 12:29

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
"likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism" is incredibly broad and any photo of any Policeman could be construed as such.

This basically makes any kind of demonstration where the police may be present, pointless, since the whole of point demonstrations is to draw attention through the media.

Still, if you've done nothing wrong you've got nothing to fear..as long as you don't intend trying to prove yourself innocent with photographic evidence.

punky 16-02-2009 13:21

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
All cops are different and when presented with woolly law descriptions from the government, they always apply it differently. That would the government's fault for wording the laws so loosely.

From all the coppers I have ever known (and I have known a lot), none have ever refused a photograph or argued against having a photo taken providing the photographer had good intentions (like DW's photo). However, that doesn't extend to:

1. The pond life that turn up to photograph a pedestrian or motorist smeared across the road so they can take the photo home and furiously masturbate over it later.

2. When cops are struggling to control violent, drug-crazed and mostly armed clients/customers/****, they don't need wannabe papps a few inches from their face shouting and trying to incite the situation.

If anyone agrees with #2, I could turn up while they are at work, constantly videoing goading them and threatening to post it on Youtube, and see how well they do their job. Its not easy, even without the violent, armed, drug-crazed criminals.

This law was drafted to prevent a reoccurence of the situation we had before when a Muslim British soldier was targetted for kidknapp and summary (Youtube) execution. To think anyone who has a hi-vi jacket in the corner of their photo should just turn themselves in is rubbish.

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Also, another thing to bear in mind: coppers are people too. Like others, they might be photophobic and not want their photos taken and plastered all over the public. It would be nice if photographers respected that as well as the others who don't want their photo taken and (mis) used.

Derek 16-02-2009 16:43

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34734810)
2. When cops are struggling to control violent, drug-crazed and mostly armed clients/customers/****, they don't need wannabe papps a few inches from their face shouting and trying to incite the situation.

And there are plenty of people who will do that. Where I work there are at least two people well known for skulking about the town centre at weekends with cameraphones and putting edited highlights onto Youtube. Arresting a struggling bag of cocaine, alcohol, tattoos and muscle isn't pretty at the best of times and when certain sections of the incident are removed or glossed over it can look even worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by punky (Post 34734810)
Also, another thing to bear in mind: coppers are people too. Like others, they might be photophobic and not want their photos taken and plastered all over the public.

Plus the uniform makes you look fat :D

Hugh 16-02-2009 17:21

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34734940)

Plus the uniform makes you look fat :D

That'll be the body armour, slim-boy! ;)

Delta Whiskey 16-02-2009 17:38

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude (Post 34734753)
Only if your linked to terrorism mate, your not, are you ?

Under the act they could decide I was, arrest me and use the photograph as evidence to send me down. This is what is being fought against.

Derek 16-02-2009 17:40

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34734971)
That'll be the body armour, slim-boy! ;)

Errr of course. Not a fish-supper, McDonalds, kebab, curry or KFC has ever passed my lips when on duty oops:

Will21st 16-02-2009 22:38

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34734986)
Errr of course. Not a fish-supper, McDonalds, kebab, curry or KFC has ever passed my lips when on duty oops:

Nope,it was Dunkin' Donuts instead :D

chaos23 17-02-2009 23:07

From today you can no longer film the Police.
 
Although they can film you without permission, you will find yourself breaking the law if you film them.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7888301.stm

This is just another piece of the jigsaw to completion of a Police State.

Derek 18-02-2009 07:41

Re: From today you can no longer film the Police.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34735805)
This is just another piece of the jigsaw to completion of a Police State.

You aren't being paranoid.

WE ARE OUT TO GET YOU! :erm:

jonbxx 18-02-2009 08:45

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
I bet the RUC wished this law existed in the 70s and 80s in Northern Ireland though

chaos23 18-02-2009 08:53

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude (Post 34734753)
Only if your linked to terrorism mate, your not, are you ?

They will use this against anyone they want to. There have been example of them using anti terror laws against people who are not terrorists.

Russ 18-02-2009 10:29

re: Photographing the police (Come on Derek...smile :D)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chaos23 (Post 34735968)
They will use this against anyone they want to.

What??

Think of all the motorists they'll be missing out on catching....


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